[filmscanners] RE: Good deal on nice digicam

2007-07-10 Thread
On 07/07/07, Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We recently purchased a Canon S3IS. .. Is it a replacement for a DSLR? Not really, but it rocks for size, weight, features, and cost Do you want to add a live histogram, live flashing overexposure warning and RAW as well? Plus

[filmscanners] Re: Good deal on nice digicam

2007-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich
This raises some very interesting aspects of digital cameras. I should mention that the S3IS already offers live histograms, and the flashing overexposure in review mode, and some customized scripts, but not raw, which is very interesting. What's most interesting is that most electronics today

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Berry Ives
One other detail I'd like to mention is that I really prefer the aspect ratio of 4/3. A subjective matter, naturally. I think it is really silly, this craze in movies and television for the very wide screen, which may suit the sweeping landscape, but very often looks ridiculous and sacrifices

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread R. Jackson
On Jul 10, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Berry Ives wrote: Does anyone know what is the market share of FF digital among professional photographers working digitally today? It seems to me that most working pros are using the 1.3x crop Canons. I see those more than just about anything else. Of course, the

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread gary
I simply see no advantage to have a smaller sensor. I don't see how I spent pixels. This makes no sense to me. Nikon has an option on some models where you can toss the outer area of the sensor to save space on the memory card. R. Jackson wrote: Sure, but you spend pixels of your total sensor

[filmscanners] RE: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Bob Geoghegan
Some 2006 Japan-only figures put the 5D at a low single-digit portion of DSLRs overall (and DSLRs are only about 5% of digital camera unit sales). The 1Ds would be a smaller fraction still. This is just from memory, but together they'd be 2-3% of the DSLR market, 100,000-150,000 units. (and

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich
Well, yes, but the resolution of the sensor is still the resolution of the sensor, so unless the FF sensor has an increased resolution equivalent to the difference in factor difference, the smaller sensor does provide a greater reach per resolution. Also, the camera is smaller and likely lighter.

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich
Exactly. I agree. Unless the FF is higher res the main advantage of FF is lower noise and in the wide angle department. Art R. Jackson wrote: Sure, but you spend pixels of your total sensor resolution to get there. On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:37 AM, gary wrote: A cropped sensor really doesn't

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Arthur Entlich
Let's say you have two sensors, each 12 MP. One is FF the other smaller using 1.3X factor. To get the same multiplication factor with the FF, you have crop about 1/4th of the area out, which means you have reduced the resolution by that much. If the FF is about 1/4th higher res to the smaller

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread gary
I think you need to strictly define reach. Arthur Entlich wrote: Well, yes, but the resolution of the sensor is still the resolution of the sensor, so unless the FF sensor has an increased resolution equivalent to the difference in factor difference, the smaller sensor does provide a greater

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread R. Jackson
On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Bob Geoghegan wrote: Some 2006 Japan-only figures put the 5D at a low single-digit portion of DSLRs overall (and DSLRs are only about 5% of digital camera unit sales). The 1Ds would be a smaller fraction still. Well, the 1Ds is what, about $7000 retail? And the

[filmscanners] RE: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Hanna, Mark (x9085)
This makes good sense Art, however I'm curious about pixel density. (apart from the obvious larger pixel = more photons landing in it sensitivity advantage which is often the case with the larger sensor) Can the lenses being used on the cameras in question, satisfactorily resolve the number of

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread gary
I'm a person that needs reach, if you define reach as getting shots of distance objects. Now generally a person who needs reach is using a telephoto lens and possibly combined with a teleconverter. Such a setup doesn't put out a lot of light, so the bigger pixels are certainly an advantage. Also,

[filmscanners] RE: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread Bob Geoghegan
Hmmm, 12 MP but in different sizes. Consider the Nikon D2X(s) vs Canon 1D mkII or 5D. http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev00.html http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev06.html#top_page Results may vary, of course. Bob G -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread gary
If you are using autofocus, that will be the limiting factor in resolution. IIRC, they quit at about 50lpmm. Then there is the antialiasing filter, which reduces resolution. The EOS-1Ds Mark II has an AAF that doesn't filter much, so it is more prone to aliasing problems, but also produces a sharp

[filmscanners] Re: film and scanning vs digital photography

2007-07-10 Thread gary
I wish they were a bit more scientific in their analysis. For instance, Canon makes more than one 300mm lens. Bob Geoghegan wrote: Hmmm, 12 MP but in different sizes. Consider the Nikon D2X(s) vs Canon 1D mkII or 5D. http://www.naturfotograf.com/D2X_rev00.html