[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-05 Thread Moreno Polloni
>> I am not an expert, but I don't believe any external USB hard drive would be faster than an internal drive - I believe the internal drive would be significantly faster.<< Even though USB 2.0 promises very fast speeds, chances are that the USB external drive is an internal IDE drive in a box wi

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-05 Thread
I have a USB 2.0 Buslink hard drive, and although the drive's internal speed is faster than my internal EIDE drive (7200RPM vs 5200RPM, or thereabouts), in action it is only about half as fast, according to my CD writing software's data transfer tests. Although USB 2.0 is far faster than 1.1, it i

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-05 Thread M. Denis Hill
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moreno Polloni Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed >> I am not an expert, but I don't believe any external USB hard drive would be faster than an internal drive

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Moreno Polloni
>>I understand, also, that RPM is more important that which version ATA your internal drives are. That is to say ATA66 (if you don't have ATA100) is probably fine with a 7200 RPM drive, because the disk is more likely to be the bottleneck than the interface.<< It depends on a few factors, but bas

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Moreno Polloni
>>SCSI hard disk drives is the answer. Faster than any IDE , multiple access at the same time and greater number of units for the same number of controllers. Price is NOT a problem ... I have already bought 4 x 18.2 IBM 10,000rpm SCSI-3 for 95$ each (on eBay) << Putting eBay aside, if you buy fro

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Mark Otway
PLEASE - we did this whole raid/striping, ide vs scsi thing about 3 months ago. Do we have to go through it all again?!?! :-( Mark Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Austin Franklin
> Putting eBay aside, if you buy from a legit dealer, you can expect to pay > four to five times as much, per gigabyte of storage, when you choose SCSI > over IDE. I think that's BS. Do you have numbers to substantiate that, using same speed drives?

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Austin Franklin
> The newer and larger 7200 rpm drives typically have a larger > cache than the > older drives, and this would provide a larger performance gain than going > from an Ultra ATA 66 to Ultra ATA 100. Do you believe a larger cache helps with large file reads and writes? For reads it is no help, and

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Gerry Kaslowski
How about taking all this HD and CPU stuff offline!!! I, for one, am really tired of getting deluged with all this CRAP all over again. Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanner

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Ezio c/o TIN
: 139507382 - Original Message - From: "Moreno Polloni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed >>SCSI hard disk drives is the answer. Faster than any IDE , multiple

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Moreno Polloni
>> Please name the two drives you are claiming are a FIVE times price increase for SCSI vs IDE.<< I looked up wholesale pricing for the IBM 18gb SCSI drive being discussed, vs a 7200 rpm 100gb IDE drive for the same price and posted the results in a previous message. The SCSI drive costs more tha

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Ezio c/o TIN
least) ... isn't it ? Sincerely. Ezio www.lucenti.com e-photography site ICQ: 139507382 - Original Message - From: "Moreno Polloni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:20 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-06 Thread Austin Franklin
> >> Please name the two drives you are claiming are a FIVE times price > increase > for SCSI vs IDE.<< > > I looked up wholesale pricing for the IBM 18gb SCSI drive being discussed, > vs a 7200 rpm 100gb IDE drive for the same price and posted the > results in a > previous message. The SCSI driv

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Austin Franklin
> How much faster is the best SCSI (Ultra wide?) Currently it's U160 and U320! > than current ATA 100 7200 > rpm technology? Quite a bit, if you run RAID 0. > Is it worth the extra hassle of SCSI? It isn't necessarily a hassle, but it sure can be...which I am sure is true of IDE RAID systems

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Steve Greenbank
ntly have IDE drives with lots of file cache. I have yet to see acceptably priced SCSI disks of the size I required. - Original Message - From: "Moreno Polloni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: [films

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Austin Franklin
> I'd like to find out more about the IBM Thinkpads that use SCSI > drives. Can > you point me to a link on www.ibm.com? Just one model would be sufficient. I personally don't know of any notebooks that use SCSI drives, but I would be happy if and when they do, at least have an external SCSI port

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Preston Earle
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[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Austin Franklin
Steve, > 5) raid striping is less reliable than a single disk of similar size. That is a very debatable point (the rest of what you said, sounds fine to me). It is a MTTF (Mean Time To Failure...and do not confuse that with MTBF) issue, and MTTF for current drives is far more than yours or I wi

[filmscanners] Re: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Arthur Entlich
Thanks for answering my query and your input and views. Art Moreno Polloni wrote: >>>How much faster is the best SCSI (Ultra wide?) than current ATA 100 7200 >>> > rpm technology? Is it worth the extra hassle of SCSI? > > The best SCSI drives run at 15k. They are really fast. I don't have any

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Austin Franklin
> If walked into a computer store and priced a SCSI and IDE drive, > the results > would be as I reported. Wanna bet? > >> by coming up with the exceptions. > > >Well, it is YOU who came up with a comparison of two exceptions... > > a cheap LARGE IDE drive with an expensive SMALL SCSI drive. >

[filmscanners] RE: Slightly OT: Hard Drive Speed

2002-02-07 Thread Austin Franklin
> You can selectively quote big price lists in both directions. Of course, but I wasn't selective. I just found the two lowest priced drives with the same specs. > Personally I feel that's a more accurate reflection of the market. But your example does NOT reflect the market. Below, I clearl