Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-24 Thread ezio
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: venerdì 22 settembre 2000 20.28 Subject: RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans Derek wrote: Digital Ice can be replaced with better handlingCouldn't agree more. But short of doing your own developing, minilabs can wreak all sorts of damage

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-24 Thread Tony Sleep
More objective: have one person do the adjustments on all the raw scans. Exactly what I concluded I should be doing, with various film types, about 9m ago :) Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio exhibit; + film scanner info comparisons

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-23 Thread Bill Ross
... 16bit scans are needed to get a fullest picture of scanner behaviour, but two, that 16bit scans are just raw material, and invariably need work involving more software and human judgement before looking half-decent. So: arriving at useable

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-22 Thread bjs
- Original Message - From: "ILyons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans I never thought that the group scanning exercise was something that would become the basis fo

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-22 Thread Tony Sleep
But he uses only one single slide to make his tests and determinations. And the tests are done by unknown people with unknown skill levels using undefined parameters. They can do whatever they want with the scan and use unknown or different software for each unit. Sharpness is

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-22 Thread Rob Geraghty
Tony Sleep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [lots of stuff snipped] 5yrs later I'm still ignorant, but at least I know I am ignorant. Did anyone even look at these samples or wonder why the hell they were so different when the protocol said they should be the same? Did anyone play around with them

RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-22 Thread Bond, Alistair
Derek wrote: Digital Ice can be replaced with better handling Couldn't agree more. But short of doing your own developing, minilabs can wreak all sorts of damage! I found some old negs of my wedding, still just in the paper folder from the minilab and not even in individual sleeves! I

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-22 Thread photoscientia
One very important factor in scanner testing which hasn't even been mentioned, let alone taken into account in these tests is TEMPERATURE. One manufacturer's data sheet states that CCD dark current doubles for every 9 degrees Celsius rise in temperature, and this seems entirely in line with

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-20 Thread Rob Geraghty
Farzan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a statistician, I must agree with David. Really, this is a futile exercise and drawing conclusions based on it would be a mistake. Oh, come on. If that's the only "right" attitude we might as well all unsubscribe from the mailing list because any

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-20 Thread Rob Geraghty
sirius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing testing by scanning just any peoples slide doesnt make any sense and makes the tests in my opinion pretty worthless. The point of scanning other people's slides was to scan a slide which was causing problems on one scanner to see if the same problems

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-19 Thread Richard
Can someone please post the URL of the Group Scan site. -- Regards Richard // | @ @ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] C _) ) --- ' __ / You should apart from the jpegd versions include in your test uncompressed output of significant details (blackpoint,

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-19 Thread Rob Geraghty
Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone please post the URL of the Group Scan site. http://home.att.net/~arwbackup/ Regards, Rob The filmscanners mailing list is hosted by http://www.halftone.co.uk To resign,

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Besenbruch
Melba in Korea wrote: I have been reading up on the Nikon LS2000 and the Polaroid Sprintscan 4000. The more I read the more confused I get. The Nikon has low resolution compared to the Polaroid, but comes with Digital Ice and Altamira Genuine Fractals(which is supposed to enlarge a 35mm

RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-18 Thread Tony Sleep
I was going to sit this one out and watch what happened, but (since it's what I use) the conclusions that are being formulated about the Pol4000+Vuescan mostly do not accord with my experience. The picture is emerging of a scanner which blows highlights, isn't particularly sharp, and produces

RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-17 Thread Hemingway, David J
lusions drawn. David Hemingway Polaroid Corporation -Original Message- From: jowilcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:21 AM To: Filmscanners Subject: RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I just looked at the

RE: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-17 Thread Rob Geraghty
David Hemingway wrote: I am skeptical about tests using multiple operators with various levels of knowledge and ability. Essentially lack of control. But hopefully with testing of the same films on different machines using vuescan helps. The protocol used relies on a single version of

Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans

2000-09-17 Thread bjs
This reply is in two parts. First a comment on David's concerns. I think by using the same software/version AND specifying the scanning parameters the way we did, we have largely mitigated the concern of varying operator skill level. However, there still remains the chance of unwitting