Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-23 Thread Tony Sleep
On Wed, 23 May 2001 01:29 +0100 (BST) Tony Sleep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > When selecting the tone and colour setting for the highlight dropper, > drag the little circle to where you want it on the big graduated picker > panel. I usually *don't* use the highlight dropper for the brightest

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-23 Thread Tony Sleep
On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The eydroppers intimidate the **ll out of me. I guess I'm hoping to see > "Instant Results" (i.e. feedback), which doesn't always happen. Just > got a > new PS book from the library, from the "Not QUITE for Dummie

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-22 Thread Tony Sleep
On Tue, 22 May 2001 12:01 +0100 (BST) Tony Sleep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > A neat way to set levels and achieve colour correction at the same time > in PS, is to do levels manually, as follows. > - First adjust the shadow end. I usually do this simply by moving the > slider to clip the hi

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-22 Thread Lynn Allen
Tony wrote: >Auto-levels often has no impact on VS 16bit images, if you have used 'white balance' and appropriate colour/contrast settings and white point (VS default clips way too much for me, I set 0.01). That seems true, now that you point it out. I often avoid 16 bit for just that reason. Th

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-22 Thread Lynn Allen
Colin wrote: >At this stage of my experimenting with the Raw scan, I just cannot extract the same detail in the white end of my neg scans that the VueScan crop file achieves. The Vuescan algorithms are very, very good. They are somewhat generalized, as they must be, and the Photoshop algorithms

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-22 Thread Tony Sleep
On Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The first thing I do after inverting a raw neg scan in Photoshop(which > you > can actually do in Vuescan, but not in MiraPhoto) is to click on Auto > Levels, then I'll try the Variations, and tweak the result wit

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-22 Thread Colin Maddock
Lynn Allen wrote: >Vuescan has a way of "seeing" that sometimes baffles me. Rather that >fiddling with the controls for an hour (when I know it will only work for >that one picture), I'm likely to try my hand at correcting the Raw scan. >The first thing I do after inverting a raw neg scan in Phot

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Julian Robinson
At 09:20 21/05/01, Rob wrote: >You say "easily" and it is if you know how, >but it's nowhere near as straightforward as the click and drag behaviour >in PSP. As I said it is exactly as straightforward if you use the Crop Tool and not the Marquee Tool. Julian Robinson in usually sunny, smog free

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Rob Geraghty
Richard wrote: >You definitely can reset the crop outline in Photoshop. Or alter it. Easily. [snip] OK, as usual with Photoshop, there are lots of features which are there but not obvious or intuitive. You say "easily" and it is if you know how, but it's nowhere near as straightforward as the cl

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Lynn Allen
Hi, Colin--You wrote: >>I *always* do the touchup in another program, and I'm leaning toward doing *all* of the >>color-correction from Raw scans there, too. >Is that with slides or negs Lynn? I've used it mostly with negs, and lately with HP flatbed images. Slides tend to be somewhat darker, w

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Julian Robinson
Rob - if you meant Photoshop and not Vuescan, it does have a crop tool which is adjustable on each edge. It is not the "Rectangular Marquee Tool" that I think you are referring to, but the "Crop Tool" on the same location in the tool palette. Hold mouse down on the corner of the Rectangular

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Larry Berman
Or move it incrementally one pixel at a time in any direction using the arrow keys. Larry >You definitely can reset the crop outline in Photoshop. Or alter it. Easily. > >In contrast with PSP, or some other programs, what you do in PS is: > >1 Use Marquee tool to draw box outline. It can also

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Richard N. Moyer
You definitely can reset the crop outline in Photoshop. Or alter it. Easily. In contrast with PSP, or some other programs, what you do in PS is: 1 Use Marquee tool to draw box outline. It can also be a circle, etc. 2.To add to the box, hold shift key down (don't have to) and redraw box, or jus

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread John Matturri
It might be nice to have a second crop-like box that functioned something like a spot-meter or a center-weighted meter: the scan exposure and processing would primarily be based on the marked off section. John M. Rob Geraghty wrote: > "Joel Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yup, works for m

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-20 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Joel Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup, works for me. My Crop|Buffer setting is 2% (I think the default) and > that seems to work well for my full frame crops. A person could probably > increase this to 10% to make sure the black can't influence the auto values. The default 2% often does

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Colin Maddock
Lynn Allen: >I *always* do the touchup in another program, and I'm leaning toward doing *all* of >the >color-correction from Raw scans there, too. Is that with slides or negs Lynn? I have been trying some processing of raw neg scans in PS lately, but reproducing the tonal range/gamma that VueSc

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
I set my buffer to 5% - this is supposed to and seems to solve this potential problem. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Goggin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Lynn Allen
>The problem is the little slivers of black border that are left cause it to calculate the scan exposure incorrectly. To avoid this, I have to crop the image ever so slightly and Vuescan's cropping tool makes this inconvenient. >>Lynn & I would suggest much better editing tools are available afte

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Joel Wilcox
>From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:43:30 -0700 > >Jeffrey writes ... > > > >I suppose I am with Lynn

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread shAf
Jeffrey writes ... > >I suppose I am with Lynn ... afterall, whether you use Vuescan to > >crop, or not, it still scans the entire frame, simply delivering > >what's within the area to the "cropped" file. > > The problem is the little slivers of black border that are left cause it to > calculate

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Goggin
>I suppose I am with Lynn ... afterall, whether you use Vuescan to >crop, or not, it still scans the entire frame, simply delivering >what's within the area to the "cropped" file. The problem is the little slivers of black border that are left cause it to calculate the scan exposure incorrectly.

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread shAf
Lynn writes ... > Rob wrote: > > >Am I the only one who has problems with the crop outline in Vuescan? > > > > ... > > I'm probably being a bit of a "Philistine" here, but I've never let Vuescan > be the "Last Call" for my images-- I suppose I am with Lynn ... afterall, whether you use Vues

RE: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Lynn Allen
Rob wrote: >Am I the only one who has problems with the crop outline in Vuescan? >The autocrop doesn't always eliminate strips of black at the edges of a frame, and including them can greatly affect the exposure. >Has anyone else experienced this? I'd have to say that the behaviour of the cro

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Rob Geraghty
Hi Ed! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try zooming into the image before dragging the crop outline. This helps a bit, but the crop box still has a tendency to jump around when releasing the mouse button after dragging. I don't want to *have* to use the zoom, as each step slows things down. The ten

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread EdHamrick
In a message dated 5/19/2001 7:05:01 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Am I the only one who has problems with the crop outline in Vuescan? I have > been wondering why it is so incredibly difficult to position correctly. Try zooming into the image before dragging the crop outline. In additi

re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Alan Womack
Rob: have you tired increase the buffer %? Maybe double it do Vuescan ignores #% of the image from the border to make sure it doesn't pick up the black film edge. Alan >> Vuescan appears to move the whole crop box sometimes when dragging one >> side. >> This makes getting the outline ri

Re: filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Jeffrey Goggin
>Has anyone else experienced this? I'd have to say that the behaviour of the >crop box outline is the most frustrating feature of Vuescan. Yes and it bugs me, too. I've sort of learned how to compensate for it but it and the lack of a histogram remain my only two significant complaints about th

filmscanners: OK, Vuescan is driving me nuts

2001-05-19 Thread Rob Geraghty
Am I the only one who has problems with the crop outline in Vuescan? I have been wondering why it is so incredibly difficult to position correctly. I *think* it's mostly due to one aspect of behaviour. Let's say I'm cropping an image in Paintshop Pro. I click and drag to create a rough outline