Re: [Finale] Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread Philip Aker
On Wednesday, Oct 2, 2002, at 10:30 US/Pacific, Stokes, Randy wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: >> It would be nice if there were some way to do this in page view, or, >> better still, if system breaks could be indicated in scroll view, one >> would then know where it was a problem already. > Y

Re: [Finale] Extracting non-sequential parts

2002-10-02 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
It may not be the standard (or even easiest) way to do it, but couldn't you achieve this by hiding the unwanted staves? All the best, Lawrence http://lawrenceyates.co.uk

[Finale] Extracting non-sequential parts

2002-10-02 Thread Crystal Premo
I have been trying to figure out how to select parts from a large score into what will amount to a piano-conductor's score, but can't find a way to selecting, e.g., the top staff, the middle staff and the bottom staff. Is this impossible, or am I missing something very obvious? Crystal Premo

Re: [Finale] TAN: Joshua Fineberg Article

2002-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Oct 2002 at 21:53, David H. Bailey wrote: > Heck, Mozart had to be the soloist to earn most of his > commissions! . . . ??? He ran his own concerts as soloist and made money in his first few seasons and barely broke even after that. He was, of course, the first to ever try to make a liv

Re: [Finale] Dropping of staves

2002-10-02 Thread Linda Worsley
At 9:28 PM -0400 10/2/02, T B wrote: >Has anyone ever noticed Finale dropping an entire >stave from a system? All lines appear as normal in >the scroll view, but in the page view, the trumpet >disappears, for example. the missing staff is also >missing when the score is printed, (which I did not

Re: [Finale] Dropping of staves

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
Be sure to Update Layout regularly when you are doing the page layout stuff. And be sure you can see it onscreen as you want it before you try printing it -- printing won't usually produce things you can't see onscreen. There are several reasons why you may have such a thing happen, but withou

Re: [Finale] TAN: Joshua Fineberg Article

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
Just from what I read of the bit you quoted, it seems as if he thinks that back in the days when classical music was THE music, (like when Haydn and Mozart and Salieri and Beethoven and even earlier, in the baroque) that everyone who wanted to compose got a job and earned their keep from compo

[Finale] Dropping of staves

2002-10-02 Thread T B
Has anyone ever noticed Finale dropping an entire stave from a system? All lines appear as normal in the scroll view, but in the page view, the trumpet disappears, for example. the missing staff is also missing when the score is printed, (which I did not notice until page 22.) I am hoping for a

Re: [Finale] Re: Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 3 Oct 2002 at 0:28, shirling & neueweise wrote: > From: "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Other than deleting the whole thing and re-entering it, is there any > >solution? > > don't draw the hairpins across barlines they aren't intended to cross > [suggestion for the future, of course]

Re: [Finale] TAN: Joshua Fineberg Article

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:39 PM 10/2/02 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: >> Classical music: Why bother? Already getting started on the Gimik list and the CECDiscuss list. :) Should have interesting responses. I don't know the guy -- supposedly he's here in New England -- but that's not unusual. There are a lot of

[Finale] TAN: Joshua Fineberg Article

2002-10-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
> Classical music: Why bother? > A composer and Harvard professor wonders whether his craft has been > left behind by a world with no patience for Great Art. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > By Joshua Fineberg > Oct. 2, 2002  |  If recruiting for composers were done in the want > ads, nobody in

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:03 PM 10/2/02 -0800, Mark D. Lew wrote: >The real leader in this field is >FreeHand Systems. It's still in the early stages, but they have actual >products along the lines of what you describe. Hasn't this been in the "early stages" for, like, years? :) Seriously, I seem to recall an ad w

Re: [Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Ken Durling
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:57:11 +0200, you wrote: >a2 should not appear in violin parts (at least not in good ones). A correct >phrase would be "2 soli" or similar. Right. "a2" is typical in wind and brass parts where two parts share a staff. Avoids double stemming notes. Ken ___

Re: [Finale] hyphens added in lyrics at system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 9:56 PM 10/02/02, d. collins wrote: >When one adds a hyphen at the beginning of a new system, is there any way >to get the spacing with the next hyphens even? With the default settings, >the first space is half the size of the following. > >This is what I get: > >A --- >- ---

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Mark D. Lew
At 1:44 PM 10/02/02, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >Heck, I've been dreaming of these networked music stands from heaven for >years! That pop guys whatsisname came up with something, but it really >isn't close in terms of real flexibility, which needs touch, pen, etc., to >be effective. Harry Conn

[Finale] re: quoting convention

2002-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Philip Aker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >With modern email applications such as Eudora, it's more likely >that one would have to go out of their way not to have a properly >quoted reply. unless you receive the digest: >At 12:00 -0500 2/10/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and >Subject: Re: Finale di

[Finale] Re: Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Other than deleting the whole thing and re-entering it, is there any >solution? don't draw the hairpins across barlines they aren't intended to cross [suggestion for the future, of course]. jef -- shirling & neueweise \/ new music

[Finale] Re: Divisi

2002-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: "Michael Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Is it just a case of players following certain habits and being unwilling >to ever change those habits... very often, and not always. write a 4/4 measure with a rising chromatic line in staccato 6-let 16ths for a string instrument, ending an 8ve ab

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Linda Worsley
At 4:24 PM -0400 10/2/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: [referring to] >>I've never, ever used "a2" to indicate that there are two parts. >>Yikes. I'd think that would be VERY confusing. >> >>Linda Worsley. >>-- > >And wrong. But now two different people thought I was saying >otherwise, so let me re

Re: [Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Christopher BJ Smith writes: > Hmm, I will concede that you probably know what you're talking about > more than I do, but it seems to me that a2 appearing on a violin part > means two players only. I see a2 on staves where there are two > clarinetists, who happen to be playing in unison at tha

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
>At 2:09 PM -0400 10/2/02, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: >>At 11:12 AM -0400 10/02/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: 1,2. a2 > >I've never, ever used "a2" to indicate that there are two parts. >Yikes. I'd think that would be VERY confusing. > >Linda Worsley. >-- And wrong. But now two different peopl

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
>At 11:12 AM -0400 10/02/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: >>>1,2. a2 >>> >>>is wrong; it would mean only two players. >>> >>>1,2. unis. >>> >>>would be more correct, n'est-ce pas? >>> >>>Christopher >> >>Well, it's debatable I suppose. To me "a2" indicates that two parts >>(played by however many peop

Re: [Finale] Divisi - an additional question

2002-10-02 Thread John Howell
Michael Withers asked: > >I've often wondered if there was any *convention* to the way this style of >pit band was notated. For example, if you were trying to perform with only >three players is it generally better to take the top lines of A, B and C, >or to play the A part with divisi plus the to

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Linda Worsley
At 2:09 PM -0400 10/2/02, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: >At 11:12 AM -0400 10/02/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: >>>1,2. a2 >>> >>>is wrong; it would mean only two players. >>> >>>1,2. unis. >>> >>>would be more correct, n'est-ce pas? >>> >>>Christopher >> >>Well, it's debatable I suppose. To me "a2" ind

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 2:26 PM +0200 10/02/02, Jari Williamsson wrote: >Christopher BJ Smith writes: > >> Even if I >> don't lay them out, I can simultaneously hold open pages 3 and 25, >> comparing them, which I can't do in Finale. > >Why can't you do that? Do you use a tiny monitor or low screen >resolution? Or

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:12 AM -0400 10/02/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: >>1,2. a2 >> >>is wrong; it would mean only two players. >> >>1,2. unis. >> >>would be more correct, n'est-ce pas? >> >>Christopher > >Well, it's debatable I suppose. To me "a2" indicates that two parts >(played by however many people) that are

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:06 PM 10/2/02 -0500, John Howell wrote: >>From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, >>>phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. >> >>jeez, how do you deal with paper scores!? 8^) >> >

RE: [Finale] Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread Stokes, Randy
David W. Fenton wrote: > > It would be nice if there were some way to do this in page view, or, > better still, if system breaks could be indicated in scroll view, one > would then know where it was a problem already. You *can* do it in page view -- just grab the end of the hairpin and drag it

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
I don't see how that sort of power-outage would be any different from what happens with paper music on stands illuminated by stand lights -- when the power goes out the music stops these days anyway. John Howell wrote: >>From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>Page view is clumsy

Re: [Finale] Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
Showing system breaks as some sort of dotted vertical line while in scroll view would be a great asset, in my opinion, for just such situations as you ahve run into, David. I have requested it from winsupport in the past, but apparently either it is too difficult to program or not enough of us

Re: [Finale] Playback bar number FinWin2003

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
In WinFin2002 and 2003, with the playback controls toolbar visible, there is a littl speaker icon which when clicked opens up the playback options dialog box. Perhaps you need to access it from the Window menu on the Mac platform? Or look in the OLD (unhelpful as that often is) for Playback

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread David H. Bailey
Actually, you CAN open multiple pages in Finale, I believe. Just go to the Window menu, click on New Window and it will give you an additional window (or more) on your current document. You can leave any of the views in scroll view or change to page view, you can tile them or cascade them, s

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Javier Ruiz
Not to worry because every performer has his/her own UPS... ;) Javier. >> From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, >>> phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. >> >> jeez, how do you de

Re: [Finale] Crescendos/Dimuendos over system breaks

2002-10-02 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Oct 2002 at 23:49, Crystal Premo wrote: > >>Other than deleting the whole thing and re-entering it, is there any > solution?<< > > I think I found success in switching to scroll view, moving the hairpin > further back in the measure, then adjusting it in page view again. That seems to be

Re: [Finale] Playback bar number FinWin2003

2002-10-02 Thread Harold Owen
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz writes: >At 10:03 AM 10/2/02 +0800, Peter Younghusband wrote: > >How do you type a number into the bar number box when using playback? > >One of the obscure bits in the interface. Click on the speaker icon to get >those choices. Dear folks, What is this "speaker icon"? Is

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread John Howell
>From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, >>phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. > >jeez, how do you deal with paper scores!? 8^) > >>I look forward to the day when every music stand is

[Finale] RE: irregular divisi

2002-10-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
> >1,2. a2 > >is wrong; it would mean only two players. > >1,2. unis. > >would be more correct, n'est-ce pas? > >Christopher Well, it's debatable I suppose. To me "a2" indicates that two parts (played by however many people) that are normally separate have been unified into a single line, whe

[Finale] Palatino fonts

2002-10-02 Thread minor9th
I've purchased, downloaded, and installed a Palatino True Type font in > > my font file in windows. > > I have win98 2nd edition. > > It shows fine on my moniter when I am using Quark but, the printout > > comes out as if it is encrypted. I click on "Send fonts as" "Outlines" > > which didn

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:05 AM 10/02/02, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: >things with a pencil, connecting here, blending there. Even if I >don't lay them out, I can simultaneously hold open pages 3 and 25, >comparing them, which I can't do in Finale. Sure you can -- just open a second window on the document. I do t

Re: [Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Christopher BJ Smith writes: > Even if I > don't lay them out, I can simultaneously hold open pages 3 and 25, > comparing them, which I can't do in Finale. Why can't you do that? Do you use a tiny monitor or low screen resolution? Or isn't the "Window/New Window" command available in your ve

[Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 1:00 AM +0200 10/02/02, shirling & neueweise wrote: >From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, >>phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. > >jeez, how do you deal with paper scores!? 8^)

[Finale] Re: BACH as a single note

2002-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
Eric responded to Michael Cook: > > Create the clef as an arrowhead using the Text tool. The clef needs > > to be positioned so that part of it will hide the line, when the line > > is made short enough. > >[> - When the expression is in the score, a double-click on the handle > > will make the h

[Finale] Re: Measure number regions

2002-10-02 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Page view is clumsy, you can't see where the music has come and gone, >phrases are broken up, and the line is broken across systems and pages. jeez, how do you deal with paper scores!? 8^) >I look forward to the day when every music stand is a gen

Re: [Finale] Divisi - an additional question

2002-10-02 Thread Michael Withers
--- On Tue 10/01, John Howell < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > We're gearing up to do "King & I" next summer, and > I've learned > that the violin books are Violin A (divisi), Violin B (divisi), and > Violin > C (no divisi), and that the original pit orchestra used just 5 violins! > I've often wo