Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread David H. Bailey
Desolation Row? Inagaddadavida? Crossroads? Richard Huggins wrote: Trivia Question: What BIG pop hit of the 60's also would not make a cut-off of 7 minutes? (No fair looking it up! (:) Richard From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Only exception: if a song is over 7 minutes long,

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread David H. Bailey
Alice's Restaurant was 70s, but MacArthur Park (only the album version, though -- the single was shortened) Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Richard Huggins wrote: Trivia Question: What BIG pop hit of the 60's also would not make a cut-off of 7 minutes? MacArthur Park, and Alice's Restaurant...

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread David H. Bailey
Richard Huggins wrote: [snip] against playing singles of greater than three-and-a-half minutes' length. The accompanying album A Tramp Shining was one of the great pop LPs of the 1960s, a sophisticated and extraordinarily well-produced concept album (which owed a considerable debt to Sgt.

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread David H. Bailey
Very interesting! I happened to see what he had to say about You Know My Name, Look Up The Number and I wonder what any of the Beatles themselves would think of his analysis -- I know that it certainly was way more involved than I ever considered when I heard the song. But in typical

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 08:30 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Very interesting! I happened to see what he had to say about You Know My Name, Look Up The Number and I wonder what any of the Beatles themselves would think of his analysis -- I know that it certainly was way more involved than I

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:26 AM -0400 6/15/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just thought I'd mention, while I was trying to figure out which came first, MacArthur Park or Hey Jude, I stumbled across this site, which features really excellent, in-depth analysis of every single Beatles tune ever recorded, done by

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
best guess is that John and Paul just intuitively gravitated towards this stuff. They found these structural relationships interesting for the same reason that a lay listener might find them interesting, without being consciously aware of what's going on, or able to describe it in technical

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 10:37 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: best guess is that John and Paul just intuitively gravitated towards this stuff. They found these structural relationships interesting for the same reason that a lay listener might find them interesting, without being consciously

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Doug Auwarter
on 6/15/03 7:47 AM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My best guess is that John and Paul just intuitively gravitated towards this stuff. They found these structural relationships interesting for the same reason that a lay listener might find them interesting, without being

Re: [Finale] OT: MacArthur Park

2003-06-15 Thread Doug Auwarter
Friends, I accidentally sent this to Darcy and he kindly notified me of my mistake. on 6/15/03 7:30 AM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Doug, [Dunno if this was another unintentional off-list post or not, but if not, feel free to repost our conversation if you like.] On

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David H. Bailey wrote: Alice's Restaurant was 70s, but MacArthur Park (only the album version, though -- the single was shortened) Sorry, David, Alice's Restaurant [the song] was copyrighted in 1966; Alice's Restaurant the movie (cf: The Internet Movie Database

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
Me: I did an analysis of You Won't See Me some years ago which I presented at the Western New York chapter meeting of the AMS. I was able to account for every note of the piece without referring to chord progressions at all, and I will never believe that the structure I unearthed was

Re: [Finale] OT: Hey Jude (was MacArthur Park)

2003-06-15 Thread Harold Owen
Folks, It's interesting that Hey Jude and other Beatles tunes are being discussed on the Finale List. The SMT List (Mus Theory) has been on the same track for over a week. I suggested that Lasso's chanson Bon Jour Mon Coeur begins with the same progression as the Hey Jude vamp. I raised some

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread John Howell
On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 08:30 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Very interesting! I happened to see what he had to say about You Know My Name, Look Up The Number and I wonder what any of the Beatles themselves would think of his analysis -- I know that it certainly was way more involved than I

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Beatles Page

2003-06-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 05:04 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Well sorta, but all he does is put the voices up there w.o doing any real analysis. What I meant was that Pollack always seems to assume that the harmony in a given song was created by generating a chord progression, the internal

Re: [Finale] OT: Hey Jude (was MacArthur Park)

2003-06-15 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Harold Owen wrote: Folks, It's interesting that Hey Jude and other Beatles tunes are being discussed on the Finale List. The SMT List (Mus Theory) has been on the same track for over a week. I suggested that Lasso's chanson Bon Jour Mon Coeur begins with the same progression as the Hey

Re: [Finale] OT: Alan Pollack's Copyright

2003-06-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:30 AM 6/15/03 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote: Of extreme interest, though is the VERY sweeping copyright notice: Copyright © 1999 by Alan W. Pollack. All Rights Reserved. This article may be reproduced, retransmitted, redistributed and otherwise propagated at will, provided that this notice

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread timothy price
Curious, I never met anyone who really liked the song. Tim Price Fairlee, VT MacArthur Park This song is legendary as regards many things: it's length, that actor Richard Harris was the artist, and, of course, the unending curiosity and discussion about what the lyrics mean. (Someone

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Huggins
From: timothy price [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curious, I never met anyone who really liked the song. Tim, I'm Richard and I like the song. (extends hand and says it's nice to meet you) Now you have. Along that line, here's a quote for you, taken from his web page http://www.jimmywebb.com: The late

[Finale] Percussion Notation / MIDI sounds

2003-06-15 Thread Tom Flood
Hello all Something I encountered the other day on a project, my customer asked for a rough recording of the work I have been doing for him. It is a standard wind band arrangement, including percussion. For clarity sake I always notate the snare drum and bass drum on the same part - a 5

Re: [Finale] $US0.99 - your cut

2003-06-15 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Richard Huggins wrote to Timothy, about MacArthur Park, about which Timothy had written: Curious, I never met anyone who really liked the song. Tim, I'm Richard and I like the song. (extends hand and says it's nice to meet you) Now you have. I'm Noel, and I like it too; maybe it's a Texas

[Finale] Auto-Hyphenation?

2003-06-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
Just wondering if anyone knew of any websites or whatnot that would automatically hyphenate English words? Might make transcribing lyrics easier -- just type them in straight, submit them for hyphenation, then copy them into Finale. Or can this be done with a word processor? Hyphenate all

Re: [Finale] Auto-Hyphenation?

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Huggins
Boy, wouldn't that be wonderful. I think the hyphenation features of word processors just deal with end-of-line hyphenations when using justified margins (or something like that...) But I think songwriters and engravers would be the only ones needing ALL multi-syllabic words hyphenated. But if