Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.01.2004 1:37 Uhr, Richard Huggins wrote Below would be my choice as well. As for the objection that it can't be used if correct spacing were an issue, I ask why. Spacing is adjustable to make room for this, using the beat chart for one thing. Well, adjusting the beat chart is more work

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.01.2004 3:03 Uhr, Mark D Lew wrote For another, I should think it wouldn't be too hard to set up the barline as either a note expression or an articulation in such a way that Finale's spacing algorithm treats it properly (with the appropriate feature checked under Music Spacing

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 21, 2004, at 2:38 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: What about respacing stave (where the barline shows in between groups), part extraction etc.? I dunno. I always do separate measures, like you do. I was just suggesting an alternative to the beat chart for the other guy. mdl

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Richard Huggins
A statement such as If you are not bothered by the spacing problems, then that's fine for you. I am. is uncalled for. What kind of engraver would not be bothered by spacing problems? But who says that the remedy to spacing problems is your solution only? It stands without question that if a

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Javier Ruiz
You may draw two lines with the Smart Shape tool and then copy all the shapes to all the bars. The barline is also available as an articulation. I'm editing an early 19th Century concerted choral work, and about midway thru the piece there is a change of tempo on the 4th beat of a measure

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.01.2004 15:34 Uhr, Richard Huggins wrote A statement such as If you are not bothered by the spacing problems, then that's fine for you. I am. is uncalled for. What kind of engraver would not be bothered by spacing problems? But who says that the remedy to spacing problems is your

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:38 AM 1/21/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Well, adjusting the beat chart is more work than it is worth, imo. If you are not bothered by the spacing problems, then that's fine for you. I am. Creating two measures on entry is less complicated than changing the beat chart, I find. The

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-21 Thread Richard Huggins
Sorry for my over-reaction. That's what happens when you reply after short and intermittent sleep. Suffice it to say that it should be considered a given that a spacing issue will be addressed by a competent engraver, it's only a matter of which approach is used. Hopefully we can agree that as

[Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread mbanner
I'm editing an early 19th Century concerted choral work, and about midway thru the piece there is a change of tempo on the 4th beat of a measure (quarter note on beat one, quarter rest on beat two, quarter rest of beat three with a fermata, followed by a thin double bar, then a quarter note on

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.01.2004 21:59 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Is there some command in Finale Mac 3k that will allow me to do this, or do I have to create two separate measures out of the one in 4/4 time and then hide the time signature in the second measure of 1/4? This is the way to do it in Finale.

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread David H. Bailey
The best way is to make the two measures, making a 3/4 measure and a 1/4 measure and hiding both time signatures. You'll have to adjust your measure numbers, if you're using them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm editing an early 19th Century concerted choral work, and about midway thru the

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Martin wrote: I'm editing an early 19th Century concerted choral work, and about midway thru the piece there is a change of tempo on the 4th beat of a measure (quarter note on beat one, quarter rest on beat two, quarter rest of beat three with a fermata, followed by a thin double bar, then a

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 20, 2004, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some command in Finale Mac 3k that will allow me to do this, or do I have to create two separate measures out of the one in 4/4 time and then hide the time signature in the second measure of 1/4? That's how I do it -- assuming that

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.01.2004 23:37 Uhr, Noel Stoutenburg wrote However, if measure numbers matter, and I don't need the target, I have also used the shape designer to create a shape expression which looks just like a double bar line, and use that, instead. But if you are concerned about correct spacing this

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Richard Huggins
Below would be my choice as well. As for the objection that it can't be used if correct spacing were an issue, I ask why. Spacing is adjustable to make room for this, using the beat chart for one thing. Not even the shape designer would be absolutely needed. Select the line tool from the smart

Re: [Finale] Creating mid-measure double bar line

2004-01-20 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 20, 2004, at 4:37 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: Below would be my choice as well. As for the objection that it can't be used if correct spacing were an issue, I ask why. Spacing is adjustable to make room for this, using the beat chart for one thing. For another, I should think it wouldn't