On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 19:26 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote:
It's not completely unheard of to want a hyphen in the middle of a
syllable in standard music with normal fonts. I remember that
happening for me in a French text once.
There may be some specialty fonts around with various lines
I presume that what you know works is the latter of the two options you
suggested below, because when this all started being discussed I tried the
former and it does not work. For one thing, the thickness of the line is
reduced proportionally. So if you get it short enough by using something
like 4
You're right. I know I found this to be true in the past, but it
clearly isn't now. In light of this, what I would recommend is
changing the point size of the en-dash so it is the same length as
the hyphen, or borrowing the en-dash from another font where it is
shorter. I *know* this works!
Thanks for the clarification. I understand the difference between mono and
proportionally spaced fonts but am curious where Andrew's comments"...majority of Mac
fonts..." and "They are numerous!" came from? Are you talking about Apple factory
installed fonts?
I have never heard this statement a
With monospaced fonts, there aren't true en-dashes and em-dashes, and
option-hyphen makes a hyphen, while shift-option-hyphen makes a
double-length hyphen. In proportionally-spaced fonts however, then
option-hyphen is indeed mapped to a true en-dash, while
shift-option-hyphen is mapped to a tr
This is news to me. Actually I have talked with several typesetters that are baffled
by your statement. So could you please give us an example of one of the numerous fonts
(preferably Adobe fonts)?
My en-dashes are then length of an "n" as it should be and are not "identical in
appearance to th
I still say
that, given the fact that it's well-established that Mac lacks a second
hyphen character, and MM sells a Mac version of Finale, it's MM's
responsibility to deal with that and find some other way to make a
non-breaking hyphen is available for lyrics in Finale. You can't just say,
"well,
At 7:08 AM 09/18/03, Philip Aker wrote:
>The slot mappings for text fonts are fairly well carved in stone at
>this point and all the slots are used up in the Mac encodings. [...]
>
> [...] the convention is used by font designers when remapping slots
>in text fonts. So I think the font you had was
On Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003, at 22:10 US/Pacific, Mark D. Lew wrote:
Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that Finale has hard-wired one
particular ASCII character and made it unavailable. The one time this
problem really bit me in the butt was not with a non-breaking hyphen
at all, but because
At 8:48 AM 09/15/03, Noel Stoutenburg wrote [in part]:
> My entire point is this: at present, if I have a finale file containing
>a score which is missing a syllable on the 3rd beat of the seventh bar of
>the alto
>line, whether the syllable is missing because I inadvertantly failed to
>include
On 15 Sep 2003 at 8:48, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
> In response to my comments about type into score, on the one hand, and
> edit lyrics, on the other, in which I wrote, in part:
I haven't quoted your long discussion because I just wanted to make a
couple of short points.
1. I went through *exact
In response to my comments about type into score, on the one hand, and edit lyrics,
on the other, in which I wrote, in part:
> >Yes, exactly. Attempting to do the same thing, that is, hyphenate "seven" into
> >two syllables, yields different results if one attempts it in type into score,
> >than
At 2:42 PM 09/12/03, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
>Actually, you don't move to the next syllable box in my example, because the
>"seven" is on the last syllable of the line. [...]
Thanks for filling me in on this. I don't use type in score regularly, so
while I'm familiar with its basic behavior, I
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