At 4:39 PM -0500 11/08/02, Andrew Stiller wrote:
If it's essential to put the traps on a single staff, I can think of
all manner of ways the above could be collapsed onto a single set of
lines and spaces, frinstance:
hi-hat open
unused
hi-hat closed
crash
ride
snare
tom
floor tom
bdr.
All tha
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 04:39 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
The piece is full of pop gestures, and the kind of repeated stomps you
mention are notated like an l.v. in reverse: there's a stub of slur in
front of the note, looks classy, easily read, no clutter.
Oh, okay -- I guess I was i
I always notate the hi-hat on two lines: notes on the bottom line
are played with the cymbals closed, and if such a note is preceded
by a slur, it's a stomp. Very readily understood and easily read,
in my experience.
I can see how that would work well for a piece where the
percussionist is
At 12:13 PM -0500 11/8/02, John Howell wrote:
Well, this is not Finale-specific. In fact it goes 'way back to hand
copying and before that to the couple of years of drum lessons I had in
high school.
I have always used .. etc
What you are describing is very close to what I've always done (eve
Mark Ralston asked:
>
>I'd be interested to hear how other composers/arrangers on this list
>
>create their Finale percussion parts for various uses (orchestra,
>
>band, pop, pit orchestra, etc.).>>
Well, this is not Finale-specific. In fact it goes 'way back to hand
copying and before that to th
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 09:00 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
My experience is that most drummers find the jazz/pop convention of
regular noteheads for the drums and X-noteheads for the cymbals much
easier to read than regular noteheads for the entire kit.
I'm sure you're right, but I'm no
My experience is that most drummers find the jazz/pop convention of
regular noteheads for the drums and X-noteheads for the cymbals much
easier to read than regular noteheads for the entire kit.
I'm sure you're right, but I'm not so sure it's true in the case of a
classical percussionist asked
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It won't please every one, but I am using Note Shapes Notation style in the
Staff Tool for Percussion. I set the staff to Ignore Key and to not show Key
Signature. This defines a staff that is always in C. Then set the noteshapes
(in the Notaion Style>NoteShapes>Select... button at the botto
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 04:38 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Even for traps, I see no need for special noteheads since 11 different
instruments can be represented on one 5-line staff without leger
lines or any two instruments sharing any line or space. With one
ledger line, the number
At 9:40 AM 11/07/02, Linda Worsley wrote:
>I agree that this is something Finale could improve, but on the other
>hand, when there doesn't seem to be one single Kosher traditional way
>it HAS to be, then how do they set up a percussion part that will
>please everyone?
By giving the user the optio
I have lately gone more toward regular staff/notehead, because it's
a whole lot easier to do in Finale, and especially for studio stuff
which is not for actual publication, it saves me the time of
wrestling with the percussion staff.
...I'd be interested to hear how other composers/arrangers o
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 02:07 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:
That's odd, because when I don't change things, normal whole notes
show up when I enter them.
Well, yes -- no percussion map = regular whole notes. But there has
*never* been a way to specify separate noteheads for whole not
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 02:39 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:
This gets back to the age-old comeback on this list, whenever anybody
asks a question as to why something normal doesn't work: Why would
you want to do that?
I use percussion maps so I can get proper playback, and would like
This gets back to the age-old comeback on this list, whenever anybody
asks a question as to why something normal doesn't work: Why would you
want to do that?
I use percussion maps so I can get proper playback, and would like to be
able to place quarter notes, half notes and whole notes on a pe
At 02:07 PM 11/07/02, David H. Bailey wrote:
>That's odd, because when I don't change things, normal whole notes show
>up when I enter them. I just checked, and sure enough the behavior you
>are reporting is happening -- I think this must be a bug introduced in 2003!
I have a score in front of me
That's odd, because when I don't change things, normal whole notes show
up when I enter them. I just checked, and sure enough the behavior you
are reporting is happening -- I think this must be a bug introduced in 2003!
Very curious!
I am going to send a bug report / question to [EMAIL PROTECT
At 9:26 AM -0500 11/7/02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 08:30 AM 11/07/02, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I seem to recall you mentioning that this was a timpani staff? If so,
why are you using a percussion map for pitched percussion? IMO, the
only time you should be using percussion maps is for unpitched
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 10:49 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 10:20 AM 11/07/02, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>> Yes. I don't spend a lot of time on playback details, but it's very
>> disconcerting to play back a piece that's supposed to use tom-toms
and
>> hear instead whistles and guiros a
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 10:10 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Yes. I don't spend a lot of time on playback details, but it's very
disconcerting to play back a piece that's supposed to use tom-toms and
hear instead whistles and guiros and the like.
What about turning off percussion playbac
At 09:54 AM 11/07/02, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>Well, obviously those are notated with standard noteheads, not
>X-noteheads.
Yes -- although most of the entries in Finale's default percussion maps use
standard noteheads rather than X noteheads.
>Since you are evidently using standard noteheads,
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 09:26 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
It's not actually a timpani staff -- I used that as an example only
because I'm most familiar with the way those parts look. But I've just
checked a few scores (Wozzeck, e.g.), and even non-pitched percussion
parts are engraved
At 08:30 AM 11/07/02, Darcy James Argue wrote:
>I seem to recall you mentioning that this was a timpani staff? If so,
>why are you using a percussion map for pitched percussion? IMO, the
>only time you should be using percussion maps is for unpitched
>percussion.
It's not actually a timpani staf
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 08:18 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
But I didn't change the noteheads. The percussion map dialog displays
two noteheads for each instrument: a closed notehead and an open
notehead.
Aaron,
I seem to recall you mentioning that this was a timpani staff? If so,
wh
At 06:15 AM 11/07/02, David H. Bailey wrote:
>What I have found in working with percussion parts is to NOT change the
>default shapes which appear in the dialog where we create the percussion
>map. The only time I change anything is when I want something
>specifically different such as an X notehe
What I have found in working with percussion parts is to NOT change the
default shapes which appear in the dialog where we create the percussion
map. The only time I change anything is when I want something
specifically different such as an X notehead. Otherwise I leave them as
is. When I do
At 04:52 PM 11/06/02, Barbara Touburg wrote:
>But what was the solution?
Well, I found two solutions, although neither one turned out to be as good
as I thought.
The first was the Change Noteheads plugin. I had hoped that by selecting a
whole region and choosing change to 'Standard music notehe
At 01:53 PM 11/06/02, Aaron Sherber wrote:
>Again, I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
Yah, nevermind -- I found it.
Aaron.
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Hi all,
Again, I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
I've got a percussion staff set up with a percussion map. The problem is
that when I want a whole note on that staff, Finale insists on using the
half note head (without stem), since that's what is selected as the open
note head in the per
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