Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Yer just dancin' Noel. Who says buy, buy, purchase, purchase, own, own, purchase, purchase, sales? Why look! http://www.finalemusic.com/store/index.asp How To Buy Decide how to buy your copy of MakeMusic! software from the three selections below: I am aware of the la

Re: [Finale] help! preferences trashed?

2005-03-08 Thread Bonnie Harris
Oops, you're right, thanks. I must have entered a typo in the search dialogs and it came up nothing. I thought it was a little weird not to have it there. Bonnie On Mar 8, 2005, at 6:52 PM, John Roberts wrote: Finale usually keeps the updates for each version as available downloads on the webs

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Per Ottar Gjerstad
Olivier Messiaen: Turangalila Symphony Per Ottar - Original Message - From: "Darcy James Argue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Adriel
on 3/8/05 1:37 PM, Bruce K H Kau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sol Ho'opi'i is well known in Hawai'i, of course, as a steel guitar player. > Yep and he can swing too :) eeer could ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/l

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-08 Thread norm
yep On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:58:36 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Not at all. And I've made the proposal in great detail here: http://maltedmedia.com/books/papers/sm-copyp.html The proposal has a couple of flaws, the first of which is that the whole

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Bruce K H Kau
Sol Ho'opi'i is well known in Hawai'i, of course, as a steel guitar player. At 11:16 PM 3/8/2005 -0500, Adriel wrote: > > >Sol Ho'opi'I anything from his acoustic swing days. Bonus if anyone knows >who this is. > >anything by Oscar Aleman > >___ >Finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Adriel
Sol Ho'opi'I anything from his acoustic swing days. Bonus if anyone knows who this is. anything by Oscar Aleman ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:58 PM 3/8/05 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >The flaw here, is that the phrases "Commercial software is sold" and >"legal purchaser" implies that the user of a particular piece of >commerical software has ownership rights in the software. Yer just dancin' Noel. Who says buy, buy, purchase,

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Raymond Horton
Here are a few: Bartok: The Miraculous Mandarin (1926); 4th Quartet (1928) Stravinsky: Symphonies of Wind Instruments (1920); Octet for Winds (1923); (stretch it to 1930 and we'll through in the Symphony of Psalms!) Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue (preferably original version, not the orchestral ve

[Finale] Economic information of value, and a question

2005-03-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends, According to the Nasdaq website, at close of business, 8 March, 2005, Make Music share price was $5.00 per share, and the risk evaluation was "average" (173 on a scale where the less risky range of "average" was 100, and the more risky was 700.) Anyone here want to admit to owning share

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Not at all. And I've made the proposal in great detail here: http://maltedmedia.com/books/papers/sm-copyp.html The proposal has a couple of flaws, the first of which is that the whole complaint is based upon a false premise, reflected in these statements quoted fro

RE: [Finale] GPO

2005-03-08 Thread Williams, Jim
John, When you installed GPO, there should have been a prompt that asked you where you wanted the program to look for the VSTs. First of all--when you installed GPO, did you install both the standalone and the VST options? If you did not install the VST version, that's your problem. You should i

Re: [Finale] help! preferences trashed?

2005-03-08 Thread John Roberts
Finale usually keeps the updates for each version as available downloads on the website. I just checked, and the Finale (Mac) 2004c Updater is definitely there. John On 3/8/05 10:29 PM, "Bonnie Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Darcy, > Apologies if I double posted! Panther seems to h

Re: [Finale] help! preferences trashed?

2005-03-08 Thread Bonnie Harris
Thanks Darcy, Apologies if I double posted! Panther seems to have trashed a few of my mail preferences as well. I think what was in the Finale folder is actually references to how finale uses the fonts with its libraries. Archive and install only put the fonts in the Font Book application, no

Re: [Finale] help! preferences trashed?

2005-03-08 Thread Bonnie Harris
Thanks Darcy, I think what was in the Finale folder is actually references to how finale uses the fonts with its libraries. Archive and install only put the fonts in the Font Book application, not into my home library or system libraries or anywhere else I could find. I moved the preferences

Re: [Finale] GPO

2005-03-08 Thread John Bell
Jim, thank you so much for taking the trouble to reply. I have now installed Personal Orchestra Studio but when I try to open it I get an error message: VST Directory does not exist!!! (their exclamations not mine). Finale can now see GPO so there is some progress. But in the Instrument list a

RE: [Finale] GPO

2005-03-08 Thread Williams, Jim
John, Finale connects to GPO via the GPO Studio...have you installed the GPO Studio? If you haven't, you must...the GPO Studio will then appear as a MIDI out device. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Bell Sent: Tue 08-Mar-05 20:30

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Daniel Wolf
Darcy James Argue wrote: Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant -- go ahead and nominate Tin Pan Alley songs and Jelly Roll Morton pieces alongside serial works, if you like. - Darcy Stravinsky:

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Guy Hayden
My vote goes to Respighi's "Pines of Rome" followed closely by "Show Boat" by Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein II. Guy Hayden - Original Message - From: "Mark D Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s On Ma

[Finale] GPO

2005-03-08 Thread John Bell
I have the advantage of a brand new Mac with 4G RAM. I have the disadvantage of being hopelessly ignorant about midi. I've just installed GPO but so far have been unable to get Finale to recognise it. When I go to Midi > Output Device, all I can see is my midi interface. I'd be enormously grat

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant -- go ahead and nominate Tin Pan Alley songs and Jelly Roll Morton pieces alongside serial works, if you l

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread John Bell
I'll take you at your word here. For me it's a toss-up between Berg's Lyric Suite and Bix's solo in Singin' the Blues. John On 8 Mar 2005, at 23:53, Darcy James Argue wrote: Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:19:09 -0800, Brad Beyenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 18:53:21 -0500, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best > > pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimp

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 18:53:21 -0500, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best > pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant -- go > ahead and nominate Tin Pan Alley songs and Jelly Roll Morton pieces >

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Owain Sutton
Darcy James Argue wrote: Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant -- go ahead and nominate Tin Pan Alley songs and Jelly Roll Morton pieces alongside serial works, if you like. - Darcy - [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

2005-03-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
So I did a bit more homework. It seems it works better if you leave long samples such as piano in DFD mode. RAM-based, such as GPO works in RAM because each sample is small, but it is still not ideal when it comes to a big score like Darcy's. More the instruments, you will need streaming. I al

[Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-08 Thread Darcy James Argue
Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant -- go ahead and nominate Tin Pan Alley songs and Jelly Roll Morton pieces alongside serial works, if you like. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY __

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Owain Sutton
Nice workaround - I'll be using that myself. Thanks! John Roberts wrote: Thank you Andrew. That will do it. John On 3/8/05 4:56 PM, "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 8, 2005, at 1:49 PM, John Roberts wrote: If I have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread John Roberts
Thank you Andrew. That will do it. John On 3/8/05 4:56 PM, "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2005, at 1:49 PM, John Roberts wrote: > >> If I >> have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the >> first >> note of the triplet - I'd like to extend t

[Finale] OT -- Sarrusophone

2005-03-08 Thread Ken Moore
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Where's John Philip Sarusa when we need him!? Grove concise says that the family of instruments (sopranino to contrabass) was indeed invented by a French army bandmaster, in 1856, but his name was Sarrus. -- Ken Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 8, 2005, at 1:49 PM, John Roberts wrote: If I have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the first note of the triplet - I'd like to extend the interior beam of the triplet to cover the rest. I would do this with layers and overlapping beams. Create the whole fig

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Owain Sutton
John Roberts wrote: That's great, Aaron, many thanks. That lets me do a lot of what I wanted to do, and I'd missed it. But it doesn't seem to help extend the interior end of secondary beams. If I have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the first note of the triplet - I'd

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:49 PM 03/08/2005, John Roberts wrote: >But it doesn't seem to help extend the interior end of secondary beams. If I >have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the first >note of the triplet - I'd like to extend the interior beam of the triplet to >cover the rest. Yes

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread John Roberts
That's great, Aaron, many thanks. That lets me do a lot of what I wanted to do, and I'd missed it. But it doesn't seem to help extend the interior end of secondary beams. If I have, say, an eighth note beamed to a 16th triplet, with a rest on the first note of the triplet - I'd like to extend the

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Owain Sutton
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:06 PM 03/08/2005, John Roberts wrote: >I don't see a way to extend secondary beams, either independently (eg >extending a 16th note beam) or in conjunction with the outer beam. Under Special Tools, select the Beam Extension Tool, and click the measure in question. Han

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:06 PM 03/08/2005, John Roberts wrote: >I don't see a way to extend secondary beams, either independently (eg >extending a 16th note beam) or in conjunction with the outer beam. Under Special Tools, select the Beam Extension Tool, and click the measure in question. Handles appear on beamed no

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Owain Sutton
John Roberts wrote: I don't see a way to extend secondary beams, either independently (eg extending a 16th note beam) or in conjunction with the outer beam. Thanks for any help, John I believe there isn't a way of doing this. This is one of my constant annoyances, that Finale's way of breaking

[Finale] Re: OT: Bass Trombone (Brass Band)

2005-03-08 Thread Joe Laird
It is important to realise, that the British brass band movement never was mainly about music. It always was a social vehicle, where music happened to be the topic of the gatherings. As an American not very familiar with the British brass band tradition your collective insights are very much appre

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Simon Troup
> I have already pretty much decided against Quickeys. It doesn't offer > that much more than iKey to justify more than 3 times the price. I know it's expensive, but for me the only calculation was is it worth $99 or whatever for the time it saves me. For me the answer is a resounding yes. Mind

Re: [Finale] Bass Trombone (Brass Band)

2005-03-08 Thread Klaus Bjerre
> From: Henry Howey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ray and I are both bass trombone players;-) > > The reason was that (as Ray noted) the traditional British Bass band > bass trombone was an instrument pitched in G. ALL of the instruments > in BB are transposing. The only reason (I believe) was the >

Re: [Finale] Replace specific pitches

2005-03-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:21 AM 3/8/05 -0600, Allen Fisher wrote: >Have you tried note mover? It has a search and replace function that *might* >get what you're after... O! Brilliant! With a staff set programmed to show just the staff in question, it works! And I always thought Note Mover only applied to sin

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Simon Troup
> In the recording tab in the preferences, do you have "Do exhaustive..." > checked or unchecked? Unchecked. With regard to popup menus, when recording macros, do everything as though you were in slow motion. Hold the popup menu selection for a second before selecting, don't click ok for a sec

Re: [Finale] Replace specific pitches

2005-03-08 Thread Allen Fisher
Have you tried note mover? It has a search and replace function that *might* get what you're after... On 3/8/05 11:10 AM, "Brad Beyenhof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:57:03 -0500, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm working on an algorithmic piece, and need t

Re: [Finale] Replace specific pitches

2005-03-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:10 AM 3/8/05 -0800, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >I don't know how to do this in Finale, but Cakewalk's sequencing >software (Sonar, Pro Audio, etc.) has an Interpolate function Thanks, Brad, yes, I use that often in Sonar. But this is in score format now, where I've been working on a re-orchestrati

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Steve Gibons wrote: Johannes, Why were you using iKey 2? It has almost no added functionality over iKey 1. If you don't need a macro program that can test for the states of menu items, as in checked or unchecked, or for variables iKey 1 will work for you, and costs a fraction of Quickeys. The r

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Nothing I have seen on OS X even comes close to what OneClick could do in OS 9. I don't know OneClick very well but I don't think it had logic and variables. QK3 is very powerful and so there is a bit of a learning curve (just like Finale). As in Finale, QK3 allows you to do the same thing in many

[Finale] Bass Trombone (Brass Band)

2005-03-08 Thread Henry Howey
Ray and I are both bass trombone players;-) The reason was that (as Ray noted) the traditional British Bass band bass trombone was an instrument pitched in G. ALL of the instruments in BB are transposing. The only reason (I believe) was the difficulty of people who lived in B-flat and E-flat to

Re: [Finale] Replace specific pitches

2005-03-08 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 11:57:03 -0500, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on an algorithmic piece, and need to move all of certain > pitches in certain octaves. > > TGTools can move entire pitch classes. Is there a plugin or filter that can > take, say, all A3s and make them A4s?

[Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread John Roberts
I don't see a way to extend secondary beams, either independently (eg extending a 16th note beam) or in conjunction with the outer beam. Thanks for any help, John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I think it may all have to do with pop up menus, which it seems Quickeys doesn't like much. I have found a work around for the popup problem I had (basically don't use the popup function), but it still crashes reproducably when I try to record a macro (which does include a popup change). Oh we

[Finale] Replace specific pitches

2005-03-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, I'm working on an algorithmic piece, and need to move all of certain pitches in certain octaves. TGTools can move entire pitch classes. Is there a plugin or filter that can take, say, all A3s and make them A4s? (FinWin2K3) Thanks, Dennis __

RE: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Title: RE: [Finale] More Quickeys problems From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Johannes Gebauer Sent:   Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:25 AM I think I am going to give up on Quickeys. There are so many problems... Sorry to hear your having problems. FWIW I have had very little issues with Q

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
In the recording tab in the preferences, do you have "Do exhaustive..." checked or unchecked? Johannes Simon Troup wrote: 1) When I try to record a complex macro in Finale, Quickeys regularly crashes. Doesn't happen to me, I have it do all manner of things and it has never, never crashed, even

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Gibons
Johannes, Why were you using iKey 2? It has almost no added functionality over iKey 1. If you don't need a macro program that can test for the states of menu items, as in checked or unchecked, or for variables iKey 1 will work for you, and costs a fraction of Quickeys. steve On Mar 8, 2005, at

Re: [Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Simon Troup
> 1) When I try to record a complex macro in Finale, Quickeys regularly > crashes. Doesn't happen to me, I have it do all manner of things and it has never, never crashed, even during the longest macros. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art - Finale IRC channel server: irc

Re: [Finale] Duplicate Hairpins

2005-03-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 8, 2005, at 9:01 AM, JD wrote: on 3/7/05 10:16 PM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So -- any ideas (1) what is causing these duplicate hairpins to occur, and (2) is there any reasonable way of getting rid of them? I'm not about to go through an existing document and try draggi

Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

2005-03-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 02:40 AM wrote: >Look, Hiro, I'm just going by what I read on the Garritan website (as >well as user reports from readers who have tried the DFD extension): Darcy. My apology. I did some homework, and you are absolutely right, and Garritan's claim of his stuff works

Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

2005-03-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy, I forgot to ask. Did you try moving GPO to separate volume/disk to see if it improves your problem? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] TAN: GPO on Mac mini

2005-03-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 05.3.8 / 02:40 AM wrote: >Look, Hiro, I'm just going by what I read on the Garritan website (as >well as user reports from readers who have tried the DFD extension): I see. Thanks for the info. I am glad Garritan jazz instrument is not out yet since I was going to jump on i

Re: [Finale] Duplicate Hairpins

2005-03-08 Thread JD
on 3/7/05 10:16 PM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So -- any ideas (1) what is causing these duplicate hairpins to occur, > and (2) is there any reasonable way of getting rid of them? I'm not > about to go through an existing document and try dragging each > individual hairpin to

Re: [Finale] OT: Bass Trombone (Brass Band)

2005-03-08 Thread Raymond Horton
My assumption as for the reason for the non-transposing bass trombone in the British Brass Band has always been so that if a G bass trombone was not available, a player with a Bb tenor trombone (or later, of course, a Bb bass trombone) who could read bass clef could fill in. Might I be correc

[Finale] More Quickeys problems

2005-03-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I think I am going to give up on Quickeys. There are so many problems... 1) When I try to record a complex macro in Finale, Quickeys regularly crashes. 2) I am trying to get a Macro to select a popup menu item in the Frame Attributes Dialog. I am trying to change a textblock from Single Page to