Re: [Finale] Re: was OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-10 Thread Carl Dershem
Mark D Lew wrote: Sounds more like the opening song from Music Man, to me. Rap: shameless music that'll drag YOUR son and YOUR daughter into the arms of a jungle animal instinct. Nah - that's the second song. The first one is the one on the train. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users

Re: [Finale] Re: was OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-10 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 10, 2006, at 3:27 AM, dhbailey wrote: Sounds more like the opening song from Music Man, to me. Rap: shameless music that'll drag YOUR son and YOUR daughter into the arms of a jungle animal instinct. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu

Re: [Finale] upgrade

2006-02-10 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Cecil Rigby wrote: To that end I was hoping someone would take a minute to answer this: If I install 06 in its own folder, away from all the previous versions' folders, should I have any of the problems that I've read some of you had? (files being overwitten, fonts not working, etc) Was this

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread bill
This is why I made it possible with fonts. I was never able to get Shapes to maintain their integrity when resizing, even if the individual shape elements are grouped, so I abandoned that tool in Fin02, except for single, rudimentary shapes. Maybe they're better now, but having them available as

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2006 at 21:05, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > David W. Fenton / 2006/02/10 / 08:47 PM wrote: > > >On a laptop, pulling the power plug > >is not sufficient, and you have to pull the battery, too. I've done > >it dozens of times, though never for a BIOS incompatibility. > > No, no. I said inte

Re: [Finale] upgrade

2006-02-10 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Cecil, I am answering out of courtesy, not because I'm sure if this - you need Darcy, or Brad, or one of the tech gurus for a definitive answer, but my feeling is that you will be fine. 2006c is pretty stable, and the installation issues were cured earlier. I haven't heard anyone bri

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 2006/02/10 / 08:47 PM wrote: >On a laptop, pulling the power plug >is not sufficient, and you have to pull the battery, too. I've done >it dozens of times, though never for a BIOS incompatibility. No, no. I said internal battery, not the laptop battery. You have to open the

[Finale] upgrade

2006-02-10 Thread Cecil Rigby
Hi everyone- after waiting out upgrades since 2003b I finally will be taking Win06, but *mostly* because I don't like having to ask people to send me music submissions in the earlier format. I don't know that I'll actually use it for engraving yet. That depends on how easily it installs and behave

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2006 at 18:24, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > ThinkPad is the only laptop I am comfortable carrying around. I have > two here, and they are built like a tank, similar to Lombard/Pismo, > but not bulky as DELL laptops. Sony BIOS, once I was having a problem > (forgot what it was), which should

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2006 at 15:12, Fisher, Allen wrote: > A completely off-topic question, only for my own information. Now that > IBM no longer does the Thinkpads, have they improved or gone down in > quality? Not so far as I can tell. They are manufactured by the same overseas companies and designed by

Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah, thank you. What would I do without you, I'd like to know? However, I think I'm beginning to get the idea on some of this stuff, thanks to this list and esp. you, Darcy. Dean On Feb 10, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Dean, The update is for people with the *full* version

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread dhbailey
LEE DENGLER wrote: Hi All, I need to make a swing expression (2 8ths = quarter / 8th triplet) where the 2 8th notes are beamed together and the quarter / eighth notes have a triplet bracket above them. I've seen this many times in scores. How do I make it Finale 2006 (windows)? I made an

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread LEE DENGLER
David, This is helpful, but how does one resize this Shape Expression. I need something smaller. If I try to stretch this shape it becomes very distorted. Lee Dengler - Original Message - From: "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: R

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread bill
Title: Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom I sell a font called "TempoTime" which handles that and just about any tempo transition you can think of without having to deal with "Shapes".  I also use this as my Time Signature font as well.   http://www.gwmp.com/MusicFontsFrameset.htm Bill Hi All, I

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I too agree with what David posted. My experiences with Sony was (a) fragile and the body easily gets damaged, and (b) they have very different way of BIOS. ThinkPad is the only laptop I am comfortable carrying around. I have two here, and they are built like a tank, similar to Lombard/Pismo, b

Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dean, The update is for people with the *full* version of GPO -- not GPO Finale Edition. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 10 Feb 2006, at 5:57 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Hmmm., the updater didn't do it for me, but Darcy did. Dean ' On Fe

Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Oh, sorry, I just used the Fin updater, not the GPO updater. Probably that's the diff. Dean ' On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Godofredo Romero wrote: the problem is already solved, thanks to darcy's guidance. the GPO installer does not put the txt file in the AU folder, what does put it is th

Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Hmmm., the updater didn't do it for me, but Darcy did. Dean ' On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Godofredo Romero wrote: the problem is already solved, thanks to darcy's guidance. the GPO installer does not put the txt file in the AU folder, what does put it is the GPO OSX updater. thank you gr

[Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread LEE DENGLER
Hi All,   I need to make a swing _expression_ (2 8ths = quarter / 8th triplet) where the 2 8th notes are beamed together and the quarter / eighth notes have a triplet bracket above them.  I've seen this many times in scores.  How do I make it Finale 2006 (windows)?  I made an _expression_ sh

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 10, 2006, at 12:53 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I make my living supporting the computer needs of small businesses and individuals. I would say, as I say to all my clients: (great advice snipped) Wow, what a complete, detailed and well-supported report! I'm not a WIndows guy, so I nev

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Fisher, Allen
A completely off-topic question, only for my own information. Now that IBM no longer does the Thinkpads, have they improved or gone down in quality? On 2/10/06 11:53 AM, "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said this: > 2. if buying a laptop, buy a ThinkPad. Here, my clients have been > most ha

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Fisher, Allen
I've not had a lick of trouble with the Sonys I have access to. Maybe it's just cause I'm a tech. ;-) On 2/10/06 11:53 AM, "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said this: > I could go on and on about all the problems with Sony machines > (including very poor quality construction and hideous fit

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Phil Daley wrote: My one caveat is, if you have a small computer systems reseller in your town, or nearby, it makes sense to get a system from them, albeit at a somewhat higher price than the chain store. They will be a much better resource go to to for prob

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/10/2006 12:53 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >I make my living supporting the computer needs of small businesses >and individuals. > >I would say, as I say to all my clients: I agree on almost everything David says. My one caveat is, if you have a small computer systems reseller in your town,

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:53 PM 2/10/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: >I would strongly recommend against Sony. I agree with David about Sony. In this area, several folks have sent in Sony laptops for repair and been without them for over a month, only to have them come back with the same problems. I'm not a fan of I

Re: [Finale] Re: was OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Feb 2006 at 19:36, Mark D Lew wrote: > This rhythm discussion reminds me of some of my experiences coaching > opera singers in recitative. On the one hand, when they sing it > strictly by the metronome, it sounds cold and lifeless and it doesn't > communicate the text. But then when I tell

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Feb 2006 at 23:45, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: > This request is OT, but I would like the view of folks using a desktop > with Windows 98 regarding how you rate your machine or the reputation > of others you hear about. I have a Micron (now MPC) Pentium III, now > in its sixth year of service. I

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2006 at 10:17, Fisher, Allen wrote: > I'd stay away from HP. My wife had one for several years and it was > fraught with problems. Compaq (now part of HP) seems to make a good > computer. I replaced my wife's HP with a Sony. It is a well-built, > fast, stable machine. I got it for about

Re: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Godofredo Romero
the problem is already solved, thanks to darcy's guidance. the GPO installer does not put the txt file in the AU folder, what does put it is the GPO OSX updater. thank you gr Fisher, Allen wrote: Dean and Godfredo-- The GPO installer should install this. I would try running the GPO instal

Re: [Finale] Transposing Clefs at the start of a new score/system

2006-02-10 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Thanks much! On 2/10/06, dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kim Patrick Clow écrit:>I tried this technique on an existing score, but the ossia bar was bigger >than what I had on the page already, did I make a mistake?Yes, you made the mistake of accepting the 100% by default. You can set thepercentage t

RE: [Finale] I can't get gpo to work with finale

2006-02-10 Thread Fisher, Allen
Dean and Godfredo-- The GPO installer should install this. I would try running the GPO installer AFTER running the Finale installer. If the GPO installer doesn't put the txt file in the Finale AU folder inside the Finale folder, contact Customer Support and they can get you straightend out. -A

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread Fisher, Allen
David is right, just about anything that you can buy at a big box store can do what you need. I can offer a little bit of further advice just having recently upgraded my PC and my wife's as well: I'd stay away from HP. My wife had one for several years and it was fraught with problems. Compaq (now

Re: [Finale] Transposing Clefs at the start of a new score/system

2006-02-10 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I tried this technique on an existing score, but the ossia bar was bigger than what I had on the page already, did I make a mistake? On 2/9/06, dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kim Patrick Clow écrit:>My Finale question is: how do you start the score with those older style >clefs, then have the instru

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT (long and some rambling)

2006-02-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:45 PM 2/9/06 -0500, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: >This request is OT, but I would like the view of folks using a desktop with >Windows 98 regarding how you rate your machine or the reputation of others >you hear about. I have a Micron (now MPC) Pentium III, now in its sixth >year of service. I

Re: [Finale] Desktop comparison, OT

2006-02-10 Thread dhbailey
D. Keneth Fowler wrote: This request is OT, but I would like the view of folks using a desktop with Windows 98 regarding how you rate your machine or the reputation of others you hear about. I have a Micron (now MPC) Pentium III, now in its sixth year of service. I feel it is time to move on.

Re: [Finale] Re: was OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-10 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: I have fellow faculty members who exhibit this characteristic - one who insists upon performing a transcription of a Bill Evans composition/improvisation (Turn Out the Stars) with which I am intimately familiar. His rendit

Re: [Finale] Re: was OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-10 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: I strongly agree on that, too. I think pitch is over-rated, to be honest -- it's the rhythm that gives most "lines" their identity and meaning, in terms of accent, rhythm and flow. Sounds like Rap to me! Richard Yates Sounds more like the opening song from Music Man