Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 07.12.2007 Tyler Turner wrote: Yes, this one is a bug. The algorithm is causing a completely different shape for the slur at one viewing size than another. To give you some idea, the center of a slur on a normal printout could be more than an inch away from where you see it on screen (relative

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread Tyler Turner
--- "David W. Fenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would not call it a bug, but an implementation of > an imperfect > algorithm for representing position onscreen, one > that is > inconsistent. Like so much with Finale, my bet is > that it goes far > back into the ancient history of the prog

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.12.2007 David W. Fenton wrote: No, but the way it works now is simply a bug. I would not call it a bug, but an implementation of an imperfect algorithm for representing position onscreen, one that is inconsistent. Like so much with Finale, my bet is that it goes far back into the ancie

Re: [Finale] 2008a Bug List - uhh, never mind

2007-12-06 Thread Ray Horton
Hmm. I've also had a couple of probs with my Creative Prodikeys Keyboard. Mainly - the quote keys don't always work in word processing, and come to think of it, they are what's needed here! The more that I think about it, the quote keys act exactly the same in both apps! SOB!How quick I

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread dhbailey
Williams, Jim wrote: Well, they took it down (I hope) for just a while. There was a 7-page list of fixes that I managed to nab and print. Yes, the CTRL-1,2,3 "feature" has been fixed. Yippee! The windows version, though, only has about 3.5 pages of fixes included in 2008A -- the rest of th

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Dec 2007 at 21:36, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > On 06.12.2007 David W. Fenton wrote: > > Of course I understand the problem. I am explaining the cause. But > > I'm not arguing that it couldn't be done better, just that it can > > never be perfrect. > > No, but the way it works now is simply a

Re: [Finale] 2008a Bug List

2007-12-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:15 PM 12/6/2007, Ray Horton wrote: >In Speedy: > >to Go To Next Layer: [shift] " > >doesn't work properly, it skips layers. (That is, layer 1 goes to layer >3, then 1; layer 2 goes to layer 4, then 2). I can't reproduce this in WinFin2008a. It works for me as expected. Aaron.

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.12.2007 David W. Fenton wrote: Of course I understand the problem. I am explaining the cause. But I'm not arguing that it couldn't be done better, just that it can never be perfrect. No, but the way it works now is simply a bug. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.came

Re: [Finale] 2008a Bug List

2007-12-06 Thread Ray Horton
Is it OK if we start making a list of the things that are not fixed in 2008a? In Speedy: to Go To Next Layer: [shift] " doesn't work properly, it skips layers. (That is, layer 1 goes to layer 3, then 1; layer 2 goes to layer 4, then 2). This has been the case all along for me in 2008

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Dec 2007 at 8:13, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > On 06.12.2007 David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 5 Dec 2007 at 21:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > > > >> > This is definitely not real wysiwyg. If it was, it would be the same for > >> > all resolutions and printout. > > > > No computer offers real WYSI

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oh, looks like I got the wrong one. My bad. Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:55 PM 12/6/2007, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >Disappointing. Seems there is no mention of supporting 10.5 on the Mac. You must have missed this, on p.3 of the Readme: New Features in Finale 2008a Compatibility with Mac OS X Leo

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:55 PM 12/6/2007, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >Disappointing. Seems there is no mention of supporting 10.5 on the Mac. You must have missed this, on p.3 of the Readme: New Features in Finale 2008a Compatibility with Mac OS X Leopard. Support for Macintosh OS 10.5 including Spotlight and Quick

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Randolph Peters
At 9:55 AM -0800 12/6/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Disappointing. Seems there is no mention of supporting 10.5 on the Mac. Way to go MakeMusic. Way to go. Actually the Readme says that a new feature of Finale 2008a is "compatibility with Mac OS X Leopard. Support for Macintosh OS 10.5 including

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Chuck Israels
??? MM says that 2008a has Leopard support. So why do you say this? Chuck On Dec 6, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Disappointing. Seems there is no mention of supporting 10.5 on the Mac. Way to go MakeMusic. Way to go. Jari Williamsson wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: Well, they to

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Disappointing. Seems there is no mention of supporting 10.5 on the Mac. Way to go MakeMusic. Way to go. Jari Williamsson wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: Well, they took it down (I hope) for just a while. I'm downloading it right now. But it's slooow... Try to do a search for Finale and 2008 in

Re: [Finale] Distinguishing Engraver slurs from adjusted slurs?

2007-12-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Actually, there is one way to easily distinguish them, which I just discovered: Change the smart shape placement options temporarily so that slurs are far away from the notes. Those slurs which haven't been changed will move away, while those which have been adjusted will stay put. Better th

Re: [Finale] Problem with PDF Margins

2007-12-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:59 AM 12/6/2007, dc wrote: >I would use if it offered "intelligent" printing and put the pages in the >right order for booklet printing.  As of 2007, Finale can't even manage the right order for manual duplex printing! I have a non-duplexing printer, so I usually print off all the RH p

Re: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Jari Williamsson
Williams, Jim wrote: Well, they took it down (I hope) for just a while. I'm downloading it right now. But it's slooow... Try to do a search for Finale and 2008 in the download area. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@sh

RE: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Williams, Jim
Well, they took it down (I hope) for just a while. There was a 7-page list of fixes that I managed to nab and print. Yes, the CTRL-1,2,3 "feature" has been fixed. From: Williams, Jim Sent: Thu 06-Dec-07 9:44 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] 2008 a is up Hi, all... 2008A now appears on

RE: [Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Williams, Jim
Now it's down ? 2007c is back Maybe 08A will return later From: Williams, Jim Sent: Thu 06-Dec-07 9:44 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] 2008 a is up Hi, all... 2008A now appears on the Finale website. Right now I can't access it due to some server error on their end. But it's up.

[Finale] 2008 a is up

2007-12-06 Thread Williams, Jim
Hi, all... 2008A now appears on the Finale website. Right now I can't access it due to some server error on their end. But it's up. Jim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Problem with PDF Margins

2007-12-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 06.12.2007 Raimund Lintzen wrote: What are you doing to get a booklet from a finale file? Get CocoaBooklet: http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/cocoabooklet/ Mac only, of course. It's been mentioned before on this list. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.d

Re: [Finale] Problem with PDF Margins

2007-12-06 Thread Raimund Lintzen
Are you willing to share with us your 'simple PDF solution'? What are you doing to get a booklet from a finale file? Thanks. Raimund Lintzen Johannes Gebauer schrieb: On 05.12.2007 Jari Williamsson wrote: Are there really so few people who do 2-up and 4-up pinting? Well, I produce booklet