Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 26 Mar 2009, at 12:29 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi Darcy, Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate part

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 26 Mar 2009, at 12:29 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi Darcy, Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate parts and score file, Except it doesn't! That was the enti

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi Darcy, Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate parts and score file, Except it doesn't! That was the entire point of my suggestion. It is very easy to add non-

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi Darcy, Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate parts and score file, Except it doesn't! That was the entire point of my suggestion. It is very easy to add non-printing staves to your score file. Cheers, - Darcy ---

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2009 at 23:49, Christopher Smith wrote: > Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate parts and > score file Hidden systems (in score view) means you have to have a separate file for parts? How so? Are hidden systems not included in linked parts? Or do you just have to un

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It would sure be nice if TGTools Smart Explosion still worked but that's been broken for a long time, too. Yup. That was a great tool in pre-linked parts days. That was the original reason I bought the pro version, and it paid for itse

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: In any event, can't you use linked parts for everything but the voiced parts, and extract those parts individually? Doesn't seem like the worst hardship ever, though I agree it's a pain to lose the benefits of linked parts for any of your par

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Bonnie Harris
Hi All, I just bit the bait and ordered '09, upgrading from '06, mostly because I read somewhere (on this list?) that the annoying behavior of having to completely re- load Garriton sounds every time one switches from one version of a document to another with the same sounds, was fixed. I si

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi Darcy, Yes, good advice, but it still means having a separate parts and score file, which I bend over backwards to avoid doing. I could have a "score" that is actually a part made up of the staves I want, but then I don't get all the automatic formatting that I normally get, and time i

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David, Mirrors can't do what voiced linked parts do. Voiced linked parts allow you to set up rules like "always show the bottom note unless there are notes in multiple layers, in which case show Layer 2" and "always show unisons," etc. So mirrors wouldn't really be helpful in this situ

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2009 at 22:59, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Add new, non-printing staves to the bottom of your score and explode the > voiced linked parts to these staves (one part per stave) and use those > staves as the source for your parts. This allows you to at least keep all > of the parts in the

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2009 at 21:46, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > On 25 Mar 2009 at 15:44, dhbailey wrote: > > > >> What a stupid logic for not fixing a bug -- if the > >> automotive world had adopted that logic, we'd all still be > >> crank-starting ou

Re: [Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread Allen Fisher
You should send this in to support as a case (include your file). I know from personal experience that they are very interested in keeping things like this in check. On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Scott Amort wrote: Hello All, I decided to try a new project in Finale 2009b and have come acro

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, While I agree this is a stupid bug and ought to be a high-priority fix (although honestly I despair of linked parts ever seeing ANY improvement, after two consecutive upgrades where linked parts were completely ignored), there is a better solution than extraction: Add new, non-p

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Mar 2009 at 15:44, dhbailey wrote: What a stupid logic for not fixing a bug -- if the automotive world had adopted that logic, we'd all still be crank-starting our cars But software and cars are two different things, so there's absol

Re: [Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread Scott Amort
David W. Fenton wrote: I know that with Christopher's help you've already identified what is a likely cause, but one thing to always consider in Vista (and other versions of Windows, too) is if running Finale in one of the compatibility modes makes a difference. Thanks, David. I did give this

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2009 at 15:44, dhbailey wrote: > What a stupid logic for not fixing a bug -- if the > automotive world had adopted that logic, we'd all still be > crank-starting our cars But software and cars are two different things, so there's absolutely no reason at all to think an analogy that t

Re: [Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2009 at 15:30, Scott Amort wrote: > After a bit of searching, I discovered that this process is invoked when > printing from a 32-bit application to a 64-bit driver. So, it seems the > culprit is Vista. However, Finale 2009 is the only application that > gives me this error. And, Fina

Re: [Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread Scott Amort
Christopher Smith wrote: Are you using non-Finale fonts? I had a problem once with that on my Mac with an old, old font. I don't know what the issues could be with Vista, though. No, just Engraver and Tamburo. The other thing is, are you using any Custom arrowheads in Smart Shapes? These WIL

Re: [Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
Are you using non-Finale fonts? I had a problem once with that on my Mac with an old, old font. I don't know what the issues could be with Vista, though. The other thing is, are you using any Custom arrowheads in Smart Shapes? These WILL break a PDF or PostScript output, in my case causin

Re: [Finale] Percussion clef bug

2009-03-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On 25-Mar-09, at 25-Mar-09 2:27 PM, Stephen Lamb wrote: I'm editing a file in FinMac 06 where the percussion clef, the rectangle in the middle of the first row of the clef selection box, has turned into a small check mark that displays on the top of the staff. Several other clefs have be

Re: [Finale] Improvements in current version of Finale

2009-03-25 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: David McKay wrote: I attempted to post this earlier, but never saw the post. Is Finwin 09 an advance on Finwin 2004? Is it worth upgrading? My wife uses the program to do music worksheets and I mainly use it to write transpositions, these days and occasionally use it to writ

Re: [Finale] Improvements in current version of Finale

2009-03-25 Thread dhbailey
David McKay wrote: I attempted to post this earlier, but never saw the post. Is Finwin 09 an advance on Finwin 2004? Is it worth upgrading? My wife uses the program to do music worksheets and I mainly use it to write transpositions, these days and occasionally use it to write arrangements. Tha

[Finale] Improvements in current version of Finale

2009-03-25 Thread David McKay
I attempted to post this earlier, but never saw the post. Is Finwin 09 an advance on Finwin 2004? Is it worth upgrading? My wife uses the program to do music worksheets and I mainly use it to write transpositions, these days and occasionally use it to write arrangements. Thanks for any help you

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Chuck Israels
I agree, this is not a logical argument. If there were a workaround that took a little fussing but still allowed the advantages of linked parts, I'd be more inclined to agree with MM's thinking on this, but this definition of a "workaround" really means there is no workaround, you just hav

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: [snip]MM people tell me that the order of priority for bug fixes is dependent upon whether or not there is a workaround, in this case, extracting the affected parts. I get that but,to me, that is not exactly a workaround, it's more an abandonment of a deeply imbedded feat

[Finale] printing to pdf from 2009b

2009-03-25 Thread Scott Amort
Hello All, I decided to try a new project in Finale 2009b and have come across a major problem printing to PDF. I have Adobe Acrobat 9.1 (full version) installed, and am running on Vista Ultimate 64-bit. When I try to print to the Adobe PDF driver, I get an error: thunking spooler apis from

[Finale] Percussion clef bug

2009-03-25 Thread Stephen Lamb
I'm editing a file in FinMac 06 where the percussion clef, the rectangle in the middle of the first row of the clef selection box, has turned into a small check mark that displays on the top of the staff. Several other clefs have been replaced by other characters, like a double sharp and a

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 68, Issue 25

2009-03-25 Thread Thurletta Brown-Gavins
Thanks so much for clearing that up! I was trying to *import* the MIDI file! Duh! Thurletta On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 dhbailey wrote: You don't import midi files -- in the File Open dialog there is a drop-down menu where you can choose the file type, and it shows .mus by default but you can change

[Finale] OT - my double clicking problem

2009-03-25 Thread Chuck Israels
Those of you who pointed out that this was a mouse issue, not a Finale one, were correct. My Logitech MX Revolution has been plaguing me with unwanted double clicks for quite a while, and I was mistakenly assigning the problem to Finale. Reverting to another (less fancy, but otherwise OK)

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Chuck Israels
Probably July, as usual, and I suspect there will be a few useful fixes. If I were MM, I'd be thinking about how to make the chords work like the new dynamics - attach to places in the measure that don't necessarily have entries. Greg Hamilton pointed out to me that, since that had alread

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Pretty much for the added sounds ... I do a fair amount of Band writing, and it would be nice to have Sax sounds available, as well as (I assume) some more perc. also. Dean On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: What is your reason for wanting to upgrade? Is there something i

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yep ... same mailing. When is 2010 likely to make an appearance? Dean On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:41 AM, dhbailey wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from MacFin 07 to 09. What is the present consensus of the bugginess of 09 ... I mean, my 07

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from MacFin 07 to 09. What is the present consensus of the bugginess of 09 ... I mean, my 07 is working pretty much as advertised, and I don't need grief in my notational life ... any thoughts one way or the other?

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
No, there certainly is no emergency. Dean On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I'd wait. Unless there is something you absolutely need in 09... On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from MacFin 0

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Robert Patterson
What is your reason for wanting to upgrade? Is there something in Fin09 in particular that you find attractive? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from  MacFin 07 to 09. >  What is the present consensus of the buggines

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Chuck Israels
I think so too - as close as we are to 2010. Chuck On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I'd wait. Unless there is something you absolutely need in 09... On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from

Re: [Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I'd wait. Unless there is something you absolutely need in 09... On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from MacFin 07 to 09. > What is the present consensus of the bugginess of 09 ... I mean, my 07 is > working pret

[Finale] Status Check

2009-03-25 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I'm beginning to weaken and am considering upgrading from MacFin 07 to 09. What is the present consensus of the bugginess of 09 ... I mean, my 07 is working pretty much as advertised, and I don't need grief in my notational life ... any thoughts one way or the other? Presently on a G5,

Re: [Finale] Chords - Fretboard

2009-03-25 Thread Larry Beekman
Thanks for this tip, Allen! Larry - Larry Beekman Guitar Studio www.larrybeekman.com On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: Can't you just turn on fretboards and select where you do not want them to appear and do Utilities-->Change-->Chord Assig

Re: [Finale] Passion Chorale MIDI or MUS Download

2009-03-25 Thread dhbailey
Thurletta Brown-Gavins wrote: Thanks, to all who contacted me both on and off list. My problem has been solved and this gave me a chance to use my new Finale 2009. I never got Finale to process the MIDI files (seemed to want them to be in XML format or something), but the MUS files saved the da

Re: [Finale] Importing from Word to Finale

2009-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
Honestly, this reminds me a bit of Finale vs. Score discussions. People who have invested a lot of time and effort learning how to get good output from Score are (understandably) reluctant to admit to the possibility that they have wasted their time, and that better options now exist, for a