Re: [Finale] Re: was WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread A-NO-NE Music
On 09/06/27(土), at 19:28, David W. Fenton wrote: Er, what? I select text without using the mouse all the time. The SHIFT key plus any keys that move the cursor select text. I use Shift+Opt+Arrow keys to select a word. Opt+Arrow jumps per word, And Cmd+Arrow jumps to the beginning/end of a lin

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Lora Crighton
--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > Was it general public or touch-typists? I'm gonna guess > general public, which > would make a huge difference. If you have to look, I'd > guess mouse is faster. > Having to look is what slows me down when I work with a mouse - if I'm doing s

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2009 at 19:32, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Sat, June 27, 2009 7:25 pm, David W. Fenton wrote: > > All I know is what the researchers report, that overall, mousing is > > faster than keyboard. I don't know exactly how they tested, but the > > results have stood up over many years of

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, June 27, 2009 7:25 pm, David W. Fenton wrote: > All I know is what the researchers report, that overall, mousing is > faster than keyboard. I don't know exactly how they tested, but the > results have stood up over many years of assault from those who > didn't believe them. Was it general

Re: [Finale] Re: was WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2009 at 0:06, John Howell wrote: > To change text formatting in Word, you > first have to select the text you want to change, right? That's a > double click (or more than one, or a sweep, but still it's done with > the mouse). After that, sure, I know the usual keyboard shortcuts in

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2009 at 7:54, Phil Daley wrote: > I expect the users who were tested were not that familiar with the keyboard > shortcuts. What an incredibly stupid response. > It's obviously faster to make a few keystrokes that navigating a set of > menus with a mouse. You really think that Apple

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Jun 2009 at 22:16, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Jun 26, 2009, at 9:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > On 26 Jun 2009 at 21:00, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > > > >> I have several friends that are graphic designers, and I'm in awe of > >> watching them work in Photoshop or Illustrator without

Re: [Finale] Re: was WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2009 at 0:33, John Howell wrote: > how > many keystrokes would it take to more the cursor in the first place > without using the mouse at all? You underrate the value of accuracy. The mouse is great for selecting large objects, and for selecting multiple objects (with a click/drag)

Re: [Finale] Re: was WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Torges Gerhard
Am 27.06.2009 um 06:37 schrieb Frank Prain: John, you can use the similar combinations to move your cursor around as well. Just don't use the Shift, as that does the selecting of the text. eg Ctrl-Arrow will move the cursor a word at a time. I just hold my thumb on the right Ctrl key and u

Re: [Finale] cut and paste clip file problem

2009-06-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Don't use a clip file. You can just copy and paste from one document to another. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 27 Jun 2009, at 3:25 PM, Martin Banner wrote: Using Finale 2008 on a Mac... I want to create a clip file from one document and paste it into a ne

[Finale] cut and paste clip file problem

2009-06-27 Thread Martin Banner
Using Finale 2008 on a Mac... I want to create a clip file from one document and paste it into a new document. Here's what I used to do in Finale 2003a that always worked: 1. highlight the violin 1 part, hold down option key, go to edit menu and click on copy to clip file, to create a clip

Re: [Finale] finale 2008 garritan sound/smart synth setup question

2009-06-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 27 Jun 2009, at 2:22 PM, Martin Banner wrote: In Finale 2008 on my Mac, I just created a new file and have begun inputting notes. I just realized, after playing back the file, that I neglected during the setup procedure to pull down to the Garritan sounds (instead I ended up with smart

[Finale] finale 2008 garritan sound/smart synth setup question

2009-06-27 Thread Martin Banner
In Finale 2008 on my Mac, I just created a new file and have begun inputting notes. I just realized, after playing back the file, that I neglected during the setup procedure to pull down to the Garritan sounds (instead I ended up with smart synth sounds, or whatever they're called). Is ther

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Owain Sutton
It's funny you should mention that - I only ever use the left shift key, even when the other key to be pressed is under that hand. Rather like double-stopping a violin :) Adam Golding wrote: exactly-keyboard shortcuts have a steeper learning curve-pianists are pretty good with them, though :

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread John Howell
At 7:50 AM +1000 6/26/09, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: Can Sibelius now have bar numbers centred, automatically underneath each bar of the lowest staff in the piece? Couldn't before. In a word, yes, in Sibelius 5 at least. Bar numbers were a mess in Sibelius 4, only because the adjustments

[Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread John Howell
At 2:25 AM +0200 6/26/09, shirling & neueweise wrote: It's not even on Sibelius' schedule to implement. sibelius policy is to let you know "this isn't needed by many users, we won't implement it." but with a smile, direct from the CEOs. I've heard about that, but I believe it is ancient hist

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Adam Golding
exactly-keyboard shortcuts have a steeper learning curve-pianists are pretty good with them, though :p 2009/6/27 Phil Daley > I expect the users who were tested were not that familiar with the keyboard > shortcuts. > > It's obviously faster to make a few keystrokes that navigating a set of > men

Re: [Finale] Re: WHAT Sibelius can't do

2009-06-27 Thread Phil Daley
I expect the users who were tested were not that familiar with the keyboard shortcuts. It's obviously faster to make a few keystrokes that navigating a set of menus with a mouse. At 6/26/2009 09:33 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 27 Jun 2009 at 2:20, Owain Sutton wrote: > >> David W. Fenton w