[Finale] Problem with Transposing Instruments

2009-08-27 Thread Pablo Castells
Hi all! I'm working with Finale 2007. I defined a 12-part classical orchestra with the Wizard. Amongst these are a Bb Clarinet and an F Horn. The wizard set up their respective transposed key signatures correctly. I am also able to change them individually (as I did for the Horn, for which I wa

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On 27-Aug-09, at 27-Aug-09 5:38 PM, John Howell wrote: At 4:22 PM -0400 8/27/09, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Ray Horton wrote: a conventional bass trombone in Bb with two valves. This is never called a contrabass trombone. In that case About 10 years ago, however

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-27 Thread Ray Horton
arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: So is the advantage to writing for a contrabass trombone one of range, or strictly one of timbre? Just looking through the Ring Cycle it doesn't look like the contrabass goes down any lower than the regular bass. I understand thet IU had two contrabass bones, both of w

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass now trombones

2009-08-27 Thread Ray Horton
Andrew, I hate to correct a man who is such an expert, an you are. But you have a mistaken impression on a few counts. " it is just impossible to say what trombone you want without going into a whole lengthy description." It is very easy to say what trombone you want. "Trombone" implies a

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-27 Thread John Howell
At 4:22 PM -0400 8/27/09, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Ray Horton wrote: a conventional bass trombone in Bb with two valves. This is never called a contrabass trombone. In that case About 10 years ago, however, I gradually came to the realization that most players c

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-27 Thread arabushk
So is the advantage to writing for a contrabass trombone one of range, or strictly one of timbre? Just looking through the Ring Cycle it doesn't look like the contrabass goes down any lower than the regular bass. I understand thet IU had two contrabass bones, both of which had valves. ajr > > On

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns? now Andrews brass

2009-08-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Ray Horton wrote: Andrew suggests: "contrabass trombone (i.e. wide-bore Bb/F bass w. addl. D trigger)" Just what do you mean, Andrew? Do you mean a contrabass trombone in BBb, same pitch as a BBb tuba, but with two valves? Not made - no valves, or one valve o

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Dalvin Boone
Yes, Ray, that's right; a smaller trumpet would provide greater security. It would be an E-Flat arpeggio on a D trumpet, D on an E-Flat trpt. And I believe high B tends to be flat on some trumpets, although I'm not at all sure about Flugelhorns. Dalvin -Original Message- From: finale-bou

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Ray Horton
Hi Dalvin, So, you mean it ranges around a concert F arpeggio? That sounds right. I know, when I sat through an audition with dozens of trumpet players playing it behind a screen, the only one who actually tried to play it on a flugel could not get the high As (written Bs) in tune - they

[Finale] OT: Question to graphics experts

2009-08-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I am currently scanning a lot of old Facsimiles, some of which I only have as rather bad photocopies, which have a lot of dust on them, which shows as small dots on the page. Is there a method, application or Photoshop filter which can take out dots which are smaller than a certain size, yet leave

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Dalvin Boone
Oops. The flugelhorn (posthorn) solo is in F, as it appears in the first trumpet part. Dalvin Boone -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Horton Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:44 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale]

RE: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Dalvin Boone
The Flugelhorn cues in the first trumpet part are for "Flugelhorn in B" (i.e., B-Flat). Dalvin Boone -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Horton Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:44 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale]

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Ray Horton
I forget - in what key is that (Mahler 3 posthorn solo) passage? arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: You could still tell it was a D trumpet and not something more mellow. I don't know if it was the player's choice or the conductors's. ajr ___ Final

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread arabushk
You could still tell it was a D trumpet and not something more mellow. I don't know if it was the player's choice or the conductors's. ajr > Our first trumpet player plays a posthorn on occasion, and gets a very > dark sound on it - it has a very large bore in comparison to it's length > - as opp

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread Ray Horton
Our first trumpet player plays a posthorn on occasion, and gets a very dark sound on it - it has a very large bore in comparison to it's length - as opposed to a D trumpet. The player that chose a D trumpet probably did so for intonation or comfort, but probably not for timbre. Actually, bei

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-27 Thread Barbara Touburg
Christopher Smith wrote: Whenever I have some unwanted staff styles in the score (parts are a different matter, as I mentioned) it is usually the result of me accidentally having the staff tool selected instead of the Selection Tool when I try some operation like respacing, so I accidentally as

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Smith
Whenever I have some unwanted staff styles in the score (parts are a different matter, as I mentioned) it is usually the result of me accidentally having the staff tool selected instead of the Selection Tool when I try some operation like respacing, so I accidentally assign a staff style in

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread arabushk
And when I did my first round of recordings in Moravia I found out how prominent the euphonium (=tenor flügelhorn) was in the folklorical combos. ajr > Andrew Stiller wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: >> >>> my first reaction was, "why?" Most of us would write for flu

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: my first reaction was, "why?" Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. But thinking about it, I could picture using flugel as the lead over trombones, and wanting to mute the who

Re: [Finale] OT: mutes for flügelhorns?

2009-08-27 Thread dhbailey
timothy price wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:01 AM, John Howell wrote: Most of us would write for flugel as a double, specifically for its tone quality. Was wondering if you might be able to give an example of this color quality in some well known musical work? Is there such a famous piec

Re: [Finale] Staff styles

2009-08-27 Thread Dan Tillberg
To only do it in the parts seems to me to be a quite crippled solution. I guess this means that you can't see in the score what the part is going to show; which I would consider to be a big problem for the score reader. I have also had large hassle with staff styles. Most often, some staves sudden