[Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Good day kind Finale users! I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a squiggly line above two notes, almost like a tie, but it's not. It's used several times and my editor and publisher is stumped by it (and he's a violinist). Any guesses? A screen shot is viewable @

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Dick Hauser
You're way beyond my knowledge, Kim, but if I were playing that, I'd be tempted to use them as mordents. Dick H Olympia, Wa On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day kind Finale users! I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a squiggly line above

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Barbara Touburg
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day kind Finale users! I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a squiggly line above two notes, almost like a tie, but it's not. It's used several times and my editor and publisher is stumped by it (and he's a violinist). Any guesses?

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Steve Parker
They look a lot like trills/mordents from the period, but they are placed unidiomatically. I have a recording and they're played straight on that. Steve P. On 1 Sep 2011, at 16:49, Dick Hauser wrote: You're way beyond my knowledge, Kim, but if I were playing that, I'd be tempted to use

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Aug 2011, at 4:51 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi List, Doing some cleaning. I don't see any reason why I'd need to keep my old Finale 3.7 manuals around anymore. But, I'm hesitant to toss them. Is there any reason I should keep these around? No. I haven't used them in MANY years. Will I be

[Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Andrew Levin
Patrick wrote: I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a squiggly line above two notes, almost like a tie, but it's not. === Ooh ooh, I know this one! It's the equivalent of a slur over staccato. Source: Clive Brown's *Classical and Romantic Performing Practice, 1750-1900

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Guy Hayden
Neumann says this mark means Vibrato. Guy Hayden --Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Patrick Clow Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:25 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question Good day

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Steve Parker
This is consistent with how it's played on my cd too. Steve P. On 1 Sep 2011, at 18:08, Andrew Levin wrote: t's the equivalent of a slur over staccato. Source: Clive Brown's *Classical and Romantic Performing Practice, 1750-1900 ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Florence + Michael
I've already seen this marking in baroque music: in a string part it denotes a measured Bogenvibrato, a change in intensity (not in pitch), created with the bow. Basically you should play the notes completely legato, in the same bow stroke, with a effect on each note. If it were written in

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Thu Sep 1, at ThursdaySep 1 12:05 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 31 Aug 2011, at 4:51 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi List, Doing some cleaning. I don't see any reason why I'd need to keep my old Finale 3.7 manuals around anymore. But, I'm hesitant to toss them. Is there any reason I should keep

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Ryan
Yes, I'm joking. I've been watching too many episodes of Pawn Stars. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@mac.com wrote: On 31 Aug 2011, at 4:51 PM, Ryan wrote: Hi List, Doing some cleaning. I don't see any reason why I'd need to keep my old Finale 3.7 manuals around

[Finale] 18th C notation

2011-09-01 Thread Margaret whitby
It may well mean use vibrato---it sounds like something that Boccherini and others use for vibrato. Margaret Whitby Margaret Whitby jwhi...@uwo.ca ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Steve Larsen
I've never seen anything quite like it. My guess from the context is that it may be an eccentric way of notating a hooked bowing. Steve Larsen -Original Message- From: Steve Parker [mailto:st...@pinkrat.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:05 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re:

Re: [Finale] 18th C notation

2011-09-01 Thread John Howell
At 3:43 PM -0400 9/1/11, Margaret whitby wrote: It may well mean use vibrato---it sounds like something that Boccherini and others use for vibrato. Margaret Whitby I wondered about that, but the consistent use on shorter note values and on repeated notes argues against it. John -- John

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Giovanni Andreani
Why not try ebay? There might be someone around the world interested in those manuals. Giovanni Andreani On 31 Aug 2011, at 22:51, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Doing some cleaning. I don't see any reason why I'd need to keep my old Finale 3.7 manuals around anymore. But, I'm

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread John Howell
At 6:22 PM +0100 9/1/11, Steve Parker wrote: This is consistent with how it's played on my cd too. Steve P. On 1 Sep 2011, at 18:08, Andrew Levin wrote: t's the equivalent of a slur over staccato. Source: Clive Brown's *Classical and Romantic Performing Practice, 1750-1900 Right. That

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread Steve Parker
On 1 Sep 2011, at 18:33, Florence + Michael wrote: I've already seen this marking in baroque music: in a string part it denotes a measured Bogenvibrato, a change in intensity (not in pitch), created with the bow. In this instance, which has a minuet feel, the placement of markings

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Sep 2011 at 14:43, Steve Larsen wrote: I've never seen anything quite like it. My guess from the context is that it may be an eccentric way of notating a hooked bowing. There wasn't any such practice of indicated precise bowing in the period. It's either one of the two suggestions: 1.

Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

2011-09-01 Thread John Howell
At 7:33 PM +0200 9/1/11, Florence + Michael wrote: I've already seen this marking in baroque music: in a string part it denotes a measured Bogenvibrato, a change in intensity (not in pitch), created with the bow. Basically you should play the notes completely legato, in the same bow stroke,

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Greensill
They WERE the best manuals for any piece of software I've ever learned, ever. Couldn't agree more! When I got Finale 3.0 I learnt most of the basics by reading the manual without the program even being open. It may be my age...but there's no way reading it on-line can in any way compare

Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: Michael Greensill m...@mikegreensill.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] keeping old manuals They WERE the best manuals for any piece of software I've ever learned, ever. Couldn't agree more! When I