Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Mon, April 14, 2014 1:54 pm, Robert Patterson wrote: > Writing 5 ledger lines above alto clef seems silly, but what do I know. Apparently it is silly, depending on the player. Just last year, one of my fellow composers wrote an entire part in alto clef, and the player said it was much too high

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Most fiddlers I've asked prefer not to have 8va unless it goes to six or more ledger lines, that is, E. FWIW, the violin part of Kreutzer Sonata does not use 8va even for the high F. (The score does, however.) The reason that 8va/8vb works on keyboards is that the fingerings are the same in every

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread Steven Larsen
Changing clefs too frequently usually comes from preparing a printable version of a score with a lot of instruments; you try to fit all the parts on a page, fiddle around with staff spacing, but notice that the 1st bassoon or 1st trombone has a note that is sticking into the staff above. Si

[Finale] trouble exporting musicxml in F2012

2014-04-14 Thread SN jef chippewa
when i select "export musicxml"... nothing happens. no dialogue, nothing. i have also been asked several times to authorize recently, and i know some options are not available (like online user manual) when not registered. but even directly after authorizing again, nothing happens when i exp

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/14/2014 6:42 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: [snip] > > My only explanation is that I have so seldom seen jazz written in C clef, > while most 19th C orchestra repertoire IS written in C clef (first trombone > particularly), that I automatically go into the kind of tone production, > style and

Re: [Finale] Corrupt File....

2014-04-14 Thread Steve Parker
I've looked at the header in a hex editor and it is entirely different from a finale file - closer to a web xml document. Anyone have any idea how this could happen? Happened to anyone else? Given that the actual data is not corrupt and only the header, is it recoverable in any way? Steve P. __

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mon Apr 14, at MondayApr 14 6:12 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: > On 4/13/2014 6:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: >> Nah, any classically-trained bassonist, cellist or trombonist should >> be perfectly at ease with tenor clef in a classical context. >> >> In jazz and commercial music, though, C cl

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/13/2014 8:35 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On Apr 13, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > >> I guess when Beethoven does it, no one complains. > > Right. To be clear, these players are only talking about C clefs in > new music. And I actually think most of this is actually a proxy

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/13/2014 6:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: > Nah, any classically-trained bassonist, cellist or trombonist should > be perfectly at ease with tenor clef in a classical context. > > In jazz and commercial music, though, C clef is definitely a > hindrance to trombonists. I, for example, can read

Re: [Finale] Changing clefs within same measure in concert pitch score

2014-04-14 Thread David H. Bailey
On 4/13/2014 6:07 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > Wow, Darcy. > > Your experience is utterly different than mine. My experience is that > bassoonists, cellists, even bassists, and *especially* trombonists of all > ages read tenor clef with complete facility and without the first hint of > complaint.

Re: [Finale] Corrupt File....

2014-04-14 Thread Giovanni Andreani
Send it ovef Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu >Can anyone try to open a file for me? > >Finale says it can't open the filetype and the same with the .bak. >It opened fine five minutes ago.. > >Steve P. > >___ >Finale mailing list >F

[Finale] Corrupt File....

2014-04-14 Thread Steve Parker
Can anyone try to open a file for me? Finale says it can't open the filetype and the same with the .bak. It opened fine five minutes ago.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe f