On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Stan Lord wrote:
In that they are a bunch of people singing together, no difference.
Except that, to me, a choir exists on its own. You could go to a
concert and the sole performer is the choir.
A chorus seems to imply, to me, singers which support soloists.
You
Stan Lord wrote:
In that they are a bunch of people singing together, no difference.
Except that, to me, a choir exists on its own. You could go to a
concert and the sole performer is the choir.
A chorus seems to imply, to me, singers which support soloists.
You wouldn't go to a concert
At 3/2/2006 04:53 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Stan Lord wrote:
In that they are a bunch of people singing together, no difference.
Except that, to me, a choir exists on its own. You could go to a
concert and the sole performer is the choir.
A chorus seems to imply,
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Stan Lord wrote:
In that they are a bunch of people singing together, no difference.
Except that, to me, a choir exists on its own. You could go to a
concert and the sole performer is the choir.
A chorus seems to imply, to me, singers which support soloists.
You
Christopher Smith wrote:
Can we just agree that while each of the two terms seems to be more
popular in certain contexts, there is a fair bit of overlap, both in
meaning and usage?
Christopher
That depends. How do you define overlap, meaning and usage?
;-)
Raymond Horton wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
Can we just agree that while each of the two terms seems to be more
popular in certain contexts, there is a fair bit of overlap, both in
meaning and usage?
Christopher
That depends. How do you define overlap, meaning and usage?
;-)
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In a message dated 02/03/2006 14:29:17 GMT Standard Time,
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Did we ever learn what the meanind of is is?
what do you mean by meanind?
By meanind I mean that I need to take up a collection so that I can
take typing lessons, followed by
At 8:38 AM +0100 3/1/06, themark wrote:
sorry for leaving the path for a while, what is the difference
between choir and chorus?
thanks
As it happens, this is a question with which I bedevil the students
in my choral literature class. Why? Because while there is no real
difference, there
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Subject: Re: [Finale] Chorus question
In that they are a bunch
On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:34 PM, John Howell wrote:
saxophone choir (oh ye saxophonophobes!).
I believe the correct term, as used by no other an expert than Homer
Simpson, is saxomaphonophobe. Perhaps in some contexts, like in a
bar, one may use saxomaphobe.
Thank you.
Christopher Smith
On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:38 PM, themark wrote:
sorry for leaving the path for a while, what is the difference between
choir and chorus?
Very little difference. Essentially they are two labels for the same
thing. However, since the two terms come out of two different
traditions, one can
themark wrote:
sorry for leaving the path for a while, what is the difference between
choir and chorus?
I'm not sure there really is one, sort of like philharmonic and
symphony but I generally think of choir as being a church-centered
music organization and chorus being a more secular
dhbailey wrote:
themark wrote:
sorry for leaving the path for a while, what is the difference
between choir and chorus?
I'm not sure there really is one, sort of like philharmonic and
symphony but I generally think of choir as being a church-centered
music organization and chorus being
At 8:52 PM -0500 2/27/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Really? So how do you differentiate passages that are to be sung by
_all_ (including the soloist)?
In orchestral work, gli altri or the rest = everyone but the
soloist, which is not the same as tutti. My client doesn't seem
to think the rest
At 9:19 PM -0500 2/27/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 27 Feb 2006, at 9:08 PM, John Bell wrote:
In a Call and Response situation, solo and gli altri seems to me
to be very clear.
So would I, but apparently my client does not.
As an instrumentalist, I would understand gli altri. As a
The most precise notation would be a separate staff for the
soloist ... it would leave no question. That seems a marketable
offering to a client.
Dean
On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:27 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:52 PM -0500 2/27/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Really? So how do you differentiate
At 3/1/2006 01:27 PM, John Howell wrote:
All others and put in rests for the soloist. I would not do this
unless the situation is crystal clear; otherwise a separate staff for
the soloist in indicated.
Since I am only a singer in this regard, I have held off on offering
comments, but . . .
In that they are a bunch of people singing together, no difference.
Except that, to me, a choir exists on its own. You could go to a
concert and the sole performer is the choir.
A chorus seems to imply, to me, singers which support soloists.
You wouldn't go to a concert where the sole
Tutti (senza solo)?
On Feb 27, 2006, at 8:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Really? So how do you differentiate passages that are to be sung by
_all_ (including the soloist)?
In orchestral work, gli altri or the rest = everyone but the
soloist, which is not the same as tutti. My client
On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
How about just Solo and Chorus?
Typically, the soloist sees herself as (1) separate from the chorus, or
(2) a member of the chorus who happens to have some solo lines. Which
is the case will depend on the nature of the solo, and more
On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:46 AM, Martin Banner wrote:
Tutti (senza solo)?
Unless your piece is in Italian, or your chorus is accustomed to
singing Italian (eg, an opera chorus), I would advise against using
Italian words for which a simple English equivalent exists. Experienced
choristers
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Really? So how do you differentiate passages that are to be sung by
_all_ (including the soloist)?
In orchestral work, gli altri or the rest = everyone but the
soloist, which is not the same as tutti. My client doesn't seem to
think the rest is clear enough, but
Darcy James Argue wrote:
A question:
What is the standard indication, in works for SATB chorus, that a
passage is to be sung by everyone except the soloist (when, e.g., the
soprano soloist shares a staff with the rest of the sopranos)?
Here's what Oxford University Press did in setting
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chorus question
Darcy James Argue wrote:
A question:
What is the standard indication, in works for SATB chorus, that a
passage is to be sung by everyone except the soloist (when, e.g., the
soprano soloist shares a staff with the rest of the sopranos)?
Here's what
On Feb 27, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
A question:
What is the standard indication, in works for SATB chorus, that a
passage is to be sung by everyone except the soloist (when, e.g., the
soprano soloist shares a staff with the rest of the sopranos)?
Assuming the soloist
Thanks Mark.
Solo, Chorus, and Solo+Chorus seems like the most clear and
efficient solution.
- Darcy
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On 28 Feb 2006, at 5:02 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
How about just
On 28 Feb 2006 at 2:31, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I have absolutely no idea what any of this has to do with academia.
Nothing.
It's precisely the kind of rant that if I had posted it, dozens of
people would be posting to the list about how awful it is that people
like me post rude things
On 28 Feb 2006 at 2:02, Mark D Lew wrote:
In your case, I think what you want to do is assume that it's case #1.
Label solo lines as solo, chorus only lines as chorus, and lines
where you want both as solo + chorus. This is consistent with how
opera, operetta and musical theater vocal
At 03:43 PM 2/28/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote:
It's precisely the kind of rant that if I had posted it, dozens of
people would be posting to the list about how awful it is that people
like me post rude things here.
Snort. Glad I finished my coffee. :)
Dennis
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G GRIFFITHS wrote:
Ah, but, in a Cathedral setting the soloist (who would be one of the choir)
would sing with the choir when it says tutti.
I concede this is often, perhaps even usually, the case, but not
always. In any case, Darcy's question was about terminology; Walton and
OUP used
On Feb 28, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
G GRIFFITHS wrote:
Ah, but, in a Cathedral setting the soloist (who would be one of the
choir)
would sing with the choir when it says tutti.
I concede this is often, perhaps even usually, the case, but not
always. In any case, Darcy's
Darcy had mentioned that the soloist was singing at the same time as
the rest of the soprano section - that was what made it awkward to
label. I suppose it might be even more awkward if the sopranos and the
soloist might or might not sing at the same time. All the more reason to
have a
Christopher Smith wrote:
Darcy had mentioned that the soloist was singing at the same time as
the rest of the soprano section - that was what made it awkward to
label. I suppose it might be even more awkward if the sopranos and the
soloist might or might not sing at the same time. All the
sorry for leaving the path for a while, what is the difference between
choir and chorus?
thanks
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A question:
What is the standard indication, in works for SATB chorus, that a
passage is to be sung by everyone except the soloist (when, e.g., the
soprano soloist shares a staff with the rest of the sopranos)?
- Darcy
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Tutti
Martin
On Feb 27, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
A question:
What is the standard indication, in works for SATB chorus, that a
passage is to be sung by everyone except the soloist (when, e.g., the
soprano soloist shares a staff with the rest of the sopranos)?
- Darcy
Really? So how do you differentiate passages that are to be sung by
_all_ (including the soloist)?
In orchestral work, gli altri or the rest = everyone but the
soloist, which is not the same as tutti. My client doesn't seem to
think the rest is clear enough, but I still need a good way of
I would have thought that in most cases the soloist's discretion
would be sufficient, with consideration of how soon their next solo
passage is etc. If there is some particular reason to suppress the
soloist then you may have to resort to a specific instruction such as
tutti (solo tacet).
On 27 Feb 2006, at 9:08 PM, John Bell wrote:
In a Call and Response situation, solo and gli altri seems to me
to be very clear.
So would I, but apparently my client does not.
There are also passages where the soloist sings a moving line with
simple choral backgrounds, both on the same
Your client surely can't find fault with that.JohnOn 28 Feb 2006, at 02:19, Darcy James Argue wrote:How about just "Solo" and "Chorus"? ___
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In choral music I've seen, it's been more or less a non-issue, since
each part has a separate staff (or at least a separate line on a staff -
stems up / stems down). The soloist is also broken out as a separate
staff. If the soloist is from a particular part (for example, a single
tenor from
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:31:41 -1000
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Chorus question
In choral music I've seen, it's been more or less a non-issue, since
each part has a separate staff (or at least a separate line on a staff -
stems up / stems down). The soloist is also
complicated, then split the parts out. Do I dectect some laziness
here?
sorry to ramble...it is my opinion.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:31:41 -1000
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In choral music I've seen
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