Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Aug 2005, at 11:42 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Andrew Stiller schrieb: So what happens if I've got a part that goes down to Bb (as some do)? Well, I cannot tell you about such Flute parts, but I have a piece with a cello part that goes down to A (well, it's a French Bass de violon) be

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Aug 2005, at 10:13 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Darcy: In GPO Full, these keyswitches are always in the octave immediately below the lowest playable note on the instrument, so that they can be triggered in real time. For instance, the lowest note on the GPO Full KS flute is B3. The keys

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Aug 2005, at 8:05 AM, dhbailey wrote: Since FinaleGPO is the big selling point of this new version, why would they include expressions in the default file, already defined for playback, which a person is NOT supposed to use in order to have Finale/GPO playback properly? Beats the hell

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew Stiller wrote: So what happens if I've got a part that goes down to Bb (as some do)? What if I have one of those 1830s scores that take the fl. down to G? I sense some big problems here, if not for flute, than for some other instruments, because for every one of them there is, below t

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Andrew Stiller schrieb: So what happens if I've got a part that goes down to Bb (as some do)? Well, I cannot tell you about such Flute parts, but I have a piece with a cello part that goes down to A (well, it's a French Bass de violon) below the normal C. With the normal, non-notation versi

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
Darcy: In GPO Full, these keyswitches are always in the octave immediately below the lowest playable note on the instrument, so that they can be triggered in real time. For instance, the lowest note on the GPO Full KS flute is B3. The keyswitch to trigger ordinary playing is a major seventh

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-08-01 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 03:28 PM wrote: DON'T USE THE EXPRESSIONS IN THE FINALE DEFAULT FILE. Ahhh, how come you didn't tell me that in the first place! :-) Now I got pizz working without Fin2006 file contaminating with the ks note on message, but I am not ge

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jul 31, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Darcy That's all there is to it, Darcy - you ned to get GPO to hire you to write their manuals. You appear to be one of the few who can actually figure the bloody thing out. cd _ I'm just back from a 5 day hiatus and catching up on p

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 5:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I *think* I understand what "keyswitch" is, but could you explain it? Sure. The full version of GPO is designed primarily to be played back in real-time (for instance, when recording a track for a sequencer). Keyswitching is a method to tr

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Simon Troup
> That is, the wires and underpinnings are showing through in the user > interface, in a way that requires you to understand how things work > below the surface in order that you correctly navigate the user > interface that controls those factors. I agree - that's a pretty good description. Si

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:10 PM 07/31/2005, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >For one thing, I noticed FinGPO will not unload samples form RAM when >you disable NI. This is bad. Yes, I think so too, for several reasons. There should be a differentiation between *assigning* samples and *loading* them. Aaron. __

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:26 PM 07/31/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >I do think there should be an option to manually unload AU/VST >instruments from memory (without losing the setup, of course). Ah, yes -- just what I suggested in my other post. Aaron. ___ Finale maili

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 Jul 2005 at 16:10, Darcy James Argue wrote: > And, in my opinion, Finale GPO Edition should not have included *any* > non-keyswitched strings. It's just too confusing. Most people have > no idea what a "keyswitch" is, nor do they care. They just want to > hear "pizz" when they write "pizz

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 4:10 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 03:51 PM wrote: Use the tremolo articulation for a bowed tremolo. You don't need an expression. H... I don't like this so far. GPO tremolo is listed right bellow GPO pizz. First of all, it seems everyone

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 03:51 PM wrote: >Use the tremolo articulation for a bowed tremolo. You don't need an >expression. H... I don't like this so far. GPO tremolo is listed right bellow GPO pizz. First of all, it seems everyone but you reached this pizz because there is no clear

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:33 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Here KS is listed and if I don't select KS I get no pizz. Of course not. If you don't load the KS instruments, obviously keyswitches won't work. Ah, I thought there was something a bit smarter going on. In GPO Full there are lots of different

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:42 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: That's all there is to it, Darcy - you ned to get GPO to hire you to write their manuals. You appear to be one of the few who can actually figure the bloody thing out. Fine with me. (Frankly, I could use the cash right about now, as an orchest

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:41 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 03:28 PM wrote: DON'T USE THE EXPRESSIONS IN THE FINALE DEFAULT FILE. Ahhh, how come you didn't tell me that in the first place! :-) Now I got pizz working without Fin2006 file contaminating with the ks note o

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:19 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: In Finale 2006, you do NOT have to make an additional version of the score for soundfont playback. Sorry Darcy. It's just that it is not working as you claim. Do you have the released version of FinMac2006 installed on a clean machine? Yes.

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Carl Dershem
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:10 PM, Simon Troup wrote: In both cases, you should make sure the expression "pizz" is NOT defined for playback, and that Human Playback is on and set to "Auto-Detect." I can't ge this keyswitching thing to work at all. I used the setup wizard

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 03:28 PM wrote: >DON'T USE THE EXPRESSIONS IN THE FINALE DEFAULT FILE. Ahhh, how come you didn't tell me that in the first place! :-) Now I got pizz working without Fin2006 file contaminating with the ks note on message, but I am not getting tremolo, and I am dar

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Simon Troup
> > Here KS is listed and if I don't select KS I get no pizz. > > Of course not. If you don't load the KS instruments, obviously > keyswitches won't work. Ah, I thought there was something a bit smarter going on. In GPO Full there are lots of different choices of, for example, solo violin, I

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
You need to download the July Kontakt Player update. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:23 PM, Simon Troup wrote: Again, to repeat my pervious posts, there is no Notation option for FinGPO since it is only available to standard GPO, and I am instantiating FinGPO

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:10 PM, Simon Troup wrote: In both cases, you should make sure the expression "pizz" is NOT defined for playback, and that Human Playback is on and set to "Auto-Detect." I can't ge this keyswitching thing to work at all. I used the setup wizard to create a little string qu

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 3:08 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 02:52 PM wrote: Then you clearly aren't using the "Notation" versions of the GPO instruments. Bear with me. I don't think you understand what I am saying. Just for the sake of the argument, I restarted FinMac

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Simon Troup
> Again, to repeat my pervious posts, there is no Notation option for > FinGPO since it is only available to standard GPO, and I am > instantiating FinGPO for sure since the GUI says so. Can someone tell me what you mean by "notation version" - I just have "Dry" and "Wet" from the load menu?! Si

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Simon Troup / 2005/07/31 / 03:10 PM wrote: >I can't ge this keyswitching thing to work at all. I used the setup >wizard to create a little string quartet - so I have only 4 instruments >select is that right? > >I set up HP as Darcy suggested, add a note expression "pizz. (GPO Finale >Edition Keyswi

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Simon Troup
> In both cases, you should make sure the expression "pizz" is NOT > defined for playback, and that Human Playback is on and set to > "Auto-Detect." I can't ge this keyswitching thing to work at all. I used the setup wizard to create a little string quartet - so I have only 4 instruments select

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 02:52 PM wrote: >Then you clearly aren't using the "Notation" versions of the GPO >instruments. Bear with me. I don't think you understand what I am saying. Just for the sake of the argument, I restarted FinMac2006 and took Wizard. The second page is Instrumen

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 31 Jul 2005, at 2:42 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 02:29 PM wrote: With Finale 2006, if you are using GPO Finale Edition or the "Notation" set in GPO Full, you should CHECK the box "Use unified keyswitches" in HP Preferences. Is checked, of course. Still no p

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 02:29 PM wrote: >With Finale 2006, if you are using GPO Finale Edition or the "Notation" >set in GPO Full, you should CHECK the box "Use unified keyswitches" in >HP Preferences. Is checked, of course. Still no pizz unless I load FinGPO KS patch. >In both cases

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hiro, With Finale 2006, if you are using GPO Finale Edition or the "Notation" set in GPO Full, you should CHECK the box "Use unified keyswitches" in HP Preferences. If you are NOT using the "Notation" set in GPO Full (i.e., if you are using the first set of instruments that show up in the "L

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-31 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/31 / 02:49 AM wrote: >Hiro, > >In Finale 2006, you should no longer be using the keyswitching >expressions. You should let HP handle GPO keyswitches. I don't understand. If I don't chose, i.e., violin solo KS from Finale GPO Load list, I get no pizz. What do you m

Re: [Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hiro, In Finale 2006, you should no longer be using the keyswitching expressions. You should let HP handle GPO keyswitches. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 30 Jul 2005, at 11:31 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Just to play with it, I followed Wizard to create a test file for GPO

[Finale] FinMac2006/GPO : How the hell do I....?

2005-07-30 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Just to play with it, I followed Wizard to create a test file for GPO. Now I want to compare the output with my other samplers by disabling GPO. The stoopid key switch note on messages won't go away. Not only that, they seems to be rapidly repeating themselves so I get huge rattling noise from