Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-25 Thread arabushk
¿¼ From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 23, 2008 8:14:50 PM PST (CA) To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 24, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: [But I do find this a bit ironic, since I believe you are still adamantly opposed to the geometric chord symbols popularized by Aebersold and now widely used (C∆, C-∆, Co, Cø, etc), on the grounds that some older musicians are not

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 24, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: We spell b13 correctly now on dominant chords (instead of the #5 that was ubiquitous 25 years ago) Hi Christopher, Seems to me those chords are #5 chords and not b13s. Is there a

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 23, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz, not what someone thinks it ought to be. If you're on a session and the bass player is lost and you need to call out a

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Mark McCarron
let's not lose sight of the scale in this argument. If you are playing the 7b13 chord as the V7 of a minor chord you may chose to play the fifth mode of the harmonic minor in which case the Eb on a G7 chord is a flatted 6th one half step away from the fifth. If you choose to think of the scale

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On 24-Jan-08, at 12:16 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: let's not lose sight of the scale in this argument. If you are playing the 7b13 chord as the V7 of a minor chord you may chose to play the fifth mode of the harmonic minor in which case the Eb on a G7 chord is a flatted 6th one half step

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 24 Jan 2008, at 7:42 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: The only things that give us pause are those things that we haven't seen before. Giant Steps gave piano master Tommy Flanagan pause the first time he saw it sight reading on the session (poor guy!) but now everyone and his sister can

[Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-24 Thread Hamilton Greg
: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz, not what someone thinks it ought to be. If you're on a session and the bass player is lost and you need to call out

[Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Huggins
I did a transposition from E minor to Eb minor. Finale converted all the C chords to B. Is there a way to globally change them to Cb? Richard FINMAC 07 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 23, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: I did a transposition from E minor to Eb minor. Finale converted all the C chords to B. Is there a way to globally change them to Cb? In the Chord menu, turn off Simplify Spelling. Christopher

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
Although, I would add, this is really not recommend. Rhythm section players *hate* to see Cb's, Fb's, E#'s and B#'s as the root of a chord in a chord symbol, even if they are technically correct. We are much more used to seeing the bIV chord in Eb min. spelled as B7. Seeing Cb7 is

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher Smith
I suppose men of good character can disagree, and I do. I have no hesitation at all using Cb as the root of the bVI chord in Eb minor, and I don't believe it causes any problems. As as for the sharps, what else is going to indicate a proper resolution from VIIdim7/III to IIIm7 in the key

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz, not what someone thinks it ought to be. If you're on a session and the bass player is lost and you need to call out a chord so they can regain their bearings, what are you going

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Bruce Clausen
23, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym I don't see it as a dumbing down, just a recognition of what the chord symbol vernacular actually is in jazz, not what someone thinks it ought to be. If you're on a session and the bass player is lost and you need

Re: [Finale] Globally chaning one chord sym

2008-01-23 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I suppose men of good character can disagree, and I do. I have no hesitation at all using Cb as the root of the bVI chord in Eb minor, and I don't believe it causes any problems. As as for the sharps, what else is going to indicate a