Had an interesting email exchange w. a Phila. Inquirer reporter to whom
I had passed on the anecdote posted here a few weeks ago to the effect
that American Idol contestants were disqualified if they had any
musical training. She countered that she thought many of them showed up
w. their teache
Andrew,
The reporter you spoke to is right -- however, the anecdote posted
here, while technically incorrect, was based on a grain of truth:
Coaching to win on 'American Idol'
Philip Chaffee
2006/02/14
Voice teachers are turning into stylists and advisers to help their
students get sele
Hey guys,
I posted the anecdote, and the information came from my daughter,
Jessica, whose friend, a talented baritone with whom she had worked
in the Soldier's Chorus, was the contestant. The story she heard
from him, here reported as I remember she told me, was that after he
sang, the
I don't doubt Jessica's friend's account in the slightest -- but it's
worth mentioning that the word "trained" in this context is extremely
ambiguous. There's (obviously) a big difference between a Juilliard
student and a pop singer with a voice coach. The former is virtually
guaranteed to
This anecdote is more than telling inre American attitude towards
quality in our lives. It is no surprise to me that what America most
idolizes is the lowest common denominator.
Dean
On Jul 9, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
Hey guys,
I posted the anecdote, and the information came
At 7/10/2006 12:04 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
>This anecdote is more than telling inre American attitude towards
>quality in our lives. It is no surprise to me that what America most
>idolizes is the lowest common denominator.
Exactly, I had never watched it, but one of my sons said to try it
Dean Eastabrook:
>
> This anecdote is more than telling inre American attitude towards
> quality in our lives. It is no surprise to me that what America most
> idolizes is the lowest common denominator.
>
Careful, careful. About all you can garner from the anecdote is that "American
Idol" id
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Kelly Clarkson -- the original American Idol winner, back in 2002 --
had a massive hit song last summer ("Since U Been Gone"). Her second
record was just certified quintuple platinum, and she won two Grammy
awards this year.
RE: the training discussion, I discovered that the show itself
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At 9:04 AM -0700 7/10/06, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
This anecdote is more than telling inre American attitude towards
quality in our lives. It is no surprise to me that what America most
idolizes is the lowest common denominator.
Dean
On Jul 9, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
Hey guys
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
This anecdote is more than telling inre American attitude towards
quality in our lives. It is no surprise to me that what America most
idolizes is the lowest common denominator.
Now let's be fair -- "America" as some monolithic attitude never got a
shot to even hear
For the record:
Paul An, the singer in question, has considerable experience in a
variety of musical idioms, not only operatic singing. Just want to
make that clear. What he does not do, in my limited experience with
hearing him, is include gratuitous melismatic embellishment above and
On 10 Jul 2006, at 12:30 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
I have not noticed that the winners of American Idol are
particularly successful for very long after their stints on the
shows. No doubt there have been exceptions.
At 1:35 PM -0400 7/10/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Kelly Clarkson -- the or
At 02:50 PM 7/10/2006, you wrote:
In many people's minds, "trained voice" equates with operatic
training. In fact, there are many voice specialists who will argue 'till
the cows come home that this is the one and only proper way to
sing. Clearly they don't get out much!!
Yeah! And who woul
At 3:33 PM -0400 7/10/06, Dan Carno wrote:
At 02:50 PM 7/10/2006, you wrote:
In many people's minds, "trained voice" equates with operatic
training. In fact, there are many voice specialists who will argue
'till the cows come home that this is the one and only proper way
to sing. Clearly the
On Jul 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, John Howell wrote:
Ah, but one of my REAL pet peeves is the voice teachers who refuse
to teach the basics for healthy singing to students who are
interested in the worlds of music outside opera, and then turn
around and use them as examples that singing pop o
This thread reminds me of my favorite Broadway quote:
"Having no talent is not enough."
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On Jul 11, 2006, at 7:01 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
This thread reminds me of my favorite Broadway quote:
"Having no talent is not enough."
Gore Vidal said that about the Cockettes, an early glam-rock group
from San Francisco that lasted from '69 to '72.
Sorry to jump so fast with a
On 7/10/06, John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah, but one of my REAL pet peeves is the voice teachers who refuse to
teach the basics for healthy singing to students who are interested
in the worlds of music outside opera, and then turn around and use
them as examples that singing pop or jaz
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