The Rite of Spring Eb bass trumpet should be called alto. It is a
double for the 5th C trumpet. But the part creates another problem,
because Stravinsky exceeds the range, going down to the written low F
(concert Ab) which is difficult or impossible to reach on an Eb
instrument, and very low
So we need to send for the calvary when the Rite comes up?
Interesting theory. I remember the low F's in Agon. I assumed Strav
just kept all the parts in C for simplicity, but knew the third player
would play the part on a Bb, which is what happens in performance.
Ravel (I remember the
At 1:23 AM -0400 6/7/07, Raymond Horton wrote:
The Janacek Sinfonietta bass trumpet part (2 in unison) is unusually
low. Hard to get a good sound that loud on any bass trumpet I've
ever played. Fun to try, though! I would like to know what
instruments the composer had available.
And
John Howell wrote:
What makes things interesting is that instruments have evolved since a
century ago, let alone a century and a half. Verdi wrote for a bass
brass instrument, knowing that his orchestras would use an
Ophicleide. Today those parts would be played on a tuba, but I seem
to
On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:09 PM, John Howell wrote:
I recall reading that R. Strauss and some others (Mahler?) wrote for
flutes with a low Bb. Ergo, someone in Vienna must have been making
such flutes
They are certainly made today. At the time when flutes started to
acquire foot joints, there
Zelenka certainly wrote wonderful parts for bassoon in his trio sonatas.
Bach wrote a very active bassoon part for Cantata 150 (if my memory
serves) that goes down to low A.
Howell wrote:
I recall reading that R. Strauss and some others (Mahler?) wrote
for flutes with a low Bb. Ergo,
On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, John Howell wrote:
What makes things interesting is that instruments have evolved
since a century ago, let alone a century and a half. Verdi wrote
for a bass brass instrument, knowing that his orchestras would use
an Ophicleide. Today those parts would be
It is very easy to get confused about trumpets in F and Eb. Don't
forget that a lot of the 19th century music written for the long
orchestral valved trumpets in F and Eb is written in the upper octave -
so actually, the transposition is the same as todays small F and Eb
trumpet and cornet -
Janacek's bass trumpets in the Sinfonietta, anyone? of the e-flat bass
trumpet in the Rite of Spring?
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Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Janacek's bass trumpets in the Sinfonietta, anyone? of the e-flat bass
trumpet in the Rite of Spring?
Did the Janacek a few years ago, and we used valve trombones for bass
trumpets. For the ROS ... Peck-horns, anyone? :)
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What's the question, Aaron? That the instrument is called bass
trumpet? Yes the low Bb and C instrument is always called bass. I and
many others have merely observed that it would more logically be called
tenor.
The Janacek Sinfonietta bass trumpet part (2 in unison) is unusually
low.
Yes, it would be interesting to find out more about Janacek's available
brass. When I went to Moravia to record I was surprised how prominent tenor
tubas were in some of the folk bands around there (with an occasional valve
trombone along the way). And Wagner tubas are among my favorite exotic
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