Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Sorry, this was meant to go to the list yesterday, I know jef already corrected himself, but just to clarify the gender problem: Am 05.09.17 um 20:22 schrieb SN jef chippewa: > more fun german gender noun facts -- > musikwettbewerb is masc. because wettbewerb is > masc.; doesn't matter that musik

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Eric Fiedler
"Eine kleine Probemusik" , with its reference to Mozart, would sound good in German ears. Good luck! Eric Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Sep 2017, at 21:56, David Froom wrote: > > Dear all, > > Thank you for this discussion and the many ideas. > > I'm writing a set of short compulsory works for

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
true! >Jef, a required piece for a competition is not necessarily a >commissioned work. -- neueweise -- fonts for new music (and traditional) notation http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts.html shirling & neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + arts management + transl

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
oops, sorry, i was reminded you had referred to wettbewerbsmusik, which would mean inverting my comments about masc./fem. and i just noticed another mistake, i used the word "fun" in a sentence about german grammar. >more fun german gender noun facts -- musikwettbewerb is masc. >because wet

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread arabushka
Years ago we had a piece on one of our theory class listening lists called "Probstuecke aus dem Wahrarts des Klavierspelen," by CPE Bach. The professor said that that was the one piece we didn't have to be able to name in the original language. Which is why I remember in in German. ajr SN

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread David Froom
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Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread dfroom
Dear all,  Thank you for this discussion and the many ideas.  I'm writing a set of short compulsory works for a competition called the Klein competition. I was hoping to be able to make an overall silly title for the set that is a play on Klein and on Mozart's"Eine kleine". So something like "

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Peter Lockwood
I would say Pflichtstück; a compulsory piece. Stück is neuter, so it would be das Pflichtstück. Peter > "Gli uomini sono angeli con un' ala sola. Possono volare solo abbracciati." > (Luciano De Crescenzo) > > Sent from my iPad > ___ Finale mailing li

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Howard Weiner
Jef, a required piece for a competition is not necessarily a commissioned work. Most instruments have standard repertoire pieces that pop up frequently as required pieces at competitions and auditions. "Pflichtstück" is actually the most common term in use. One could of course might have to exp

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Howard Weiner
Jef, a required piece for a competition is not necessarily a commissioned work. Most instruments have standard repertoire pieces that pop up frequently as required pieces at competitions and auditions. "Pflichtstück" is actually the most common term in use. Am 05.09.2017 um 20:26 schrieb SN je

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Eric Fiedler
The word you’re looking for is „Probestück“ (das, plural Probestücke). These were the compositions which composers routinely sent with their applications for a new position – and were subsequently often asked to perform at their prospective workplace if they made the cut. Hope this helps. **

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
>A required piece for a competition would be "ein/das Pflichtstück" yeah but that is really awkward and may be used but is certainly nowhere as common as the term "auftragskomposition", which in the context of a competition is clearly understood to be mandatory (pflicht). -- neueweise -- f

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
>here they use a similar for to wqhat i wrote above: >... Auftragskomposition des diesjährigen ARD-Wettbewerbs... forgot the link https://www.br-klassik.de/concert/ausstrahlung-1163426.html -- neueweise -- fonts for new music (and traditional) notation http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts.html

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread Howard Weiner
A required piece for a competition would be "ein/das Pflichtstück" Howard Am 05.09.2017 um 19:52 schrieb David Froom: > Can someone help me with what a word would be in German? I’m looking for a > word that would be used for “competition music,” as in music written > specifically to be used in

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
more fun german gender noun facts -- musikwettbewerb is masc. because wettbewerb is masc.; doesn't matter that musik is fem. in this case (musik becomes an adj.). >Can someone help me with what a word would be in >German? I¹m looking for a word that would be >used for ³competition music,² a

Re: [Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread SN jef chippewa
Auftragskomposition is a common term (commissioned work), but i can't recall ever seeing the specific term you mention. could be something like Wettbewerbauftragskomposition. or Auftragskomposition zur Wettbewerb. careful, "w", not "v". also Auftragswerk http://www.violinwettbewerb-marteau

[Finale] off topic: German for "competition music"?

2017-09-05 Thread David Froom
Can someone help me with what a word would be in German? I’m looking for a word that would be used for “competition music,” as in music written specifically to be used in a music competition (e.g., a new work required of all participants). I know the standard word in German for music competition