Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 03:20 PM 6/30/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Jun 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: >> I'm surprised at that viewpoint, esp."have to set myself." What--- >> once? I suspect this will be a Program preference, not a Document >> p

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:20 PM 6/30/2007, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Jun 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: >> I'm surprised at that viewpoint, esp."have to set myself." What--- >> once? I suspect this will be a Program preference, not a Document >> preference. >> (Hope so.). > > >I doubt it, myself. I

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: ...am not really happy about ... limiting my views to 3 sizes that I have to set myself. I'm surprised at that viewpoint, esp."have to set myself." What--- once? I suspect this will

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:49 PM 6/30/2007, Richard Huggins wrote: >I'm surprised at that viewpoint, esp."have to set myself." What--- >once? I suspect this will be a Program preference, not a Document >preference. (Hope so.). Yes, they are Program Options. The defaults are 100%, 200%, and 75%. Aaron. _

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I'd say if hell freezes over then you can expect this. Otherwise.no way. Jim Hale wrote: Now the trick is going to be (since it now incorporates audio) is how do I get everything over into Sonar? Will they (soon) allow the ability to export as, say, a Sonar BUN (Bundle) file? Jim Hale

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Richard Huggins
On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: ...am not really happy about ... limiting my views to 3 sizes that I have to set myself. I'm surprised at that viewpoint, esp."have to set myself." What--- once? I suspect this will be a Program preference, not a Document preference. (

RE: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Jim Hale
Now the trick is going to be (since it now incorporates audio) is how do I get everything over into Sonar? Will they (soon) allow the ability to export as, say, a Sonar BUN (Bundle) file? Jim Hale http://www.themiditrombone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Jim Hale
Now the trick is going to be (since it now incorporates audio) is how do I get everything over into Sonar? Will they (soon) allow the ability to export as, say, a Sonar BUN (Bundle) file? Jim Hale http://www.themiditrombone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-30 Thread Stan Lord
I have previously ordered from MM and had to pay duty Last year I ordered from UK - used to be Etcetera but changed suppliers last year, can't remember who but will search - and I seem to remember it was about the same cost as from US ie. no duty. Stan Lord On 29 Jun 2007, at 12:54, d

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-29 Thread Martin Gieseking
dc wrote: > Does anyone know if one has to pay any kind of taxes (besides the > outrageous shipping price!), when ordering the 99$ upgrade from MM and > having it shipped to Europe? > > I seem to recall that below a certain price (100$, 150$), there weren't > any other taxes. > > I also recall th

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Or how about support for Audio Units? Sibelius now has that.. Steve Schow wrote: Yea I was thinking the same thing sadly. They missed the boat on a few key improvements that I think would have made it a must have. For example, why still no general purpose VST mixer? How about AS

RE: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Steve Schow
Yea I was thinking the same thing sadly. They missed the boat on a few key improvements that I think would have made it a must have. For example, why still no general purpose VST mixer? How about ASIO or WDM audio? If it comes in and turns out it fixed a bunch of known bugs, I'll think a

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Chuck Israels
Christopher, I don't ever remember MM announcing that bugs would be fixed until the version that fixed them (or purported to) was actually released. Maybe my memory is faulty, but that's what I remember. I don't think this is anything new. Chuck On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Christoph

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Christopher Smith
I asked tech support which bugs had been fixed in 2008, and listed some of the ones that bug me most. This was the response" Christopher- Unfortunately, information of this nature about Finale 2008 is not yet available. Any and all fixes for previous version "bugs" will be listed in the Re

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Aaron Sherber
Christopher Smith said: >Aw crap! I just noticed this, from the Finale 2008 Interface Question >in Support. > > [snip] > >I use these a lot, and am not really happy about adding keystrokes to >some often-used items, removing key commands for others (explode and >implode) and limiting my views to

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Randolph Peters
Andrew Stiller wrote: Still, this new version isn't so sexy that I'd shell out $100 for it when I've only had FinMac 2K7 for less than a year. I'm usually an early adopter, but this time I'm going to wait to see how many bugs are fixed and new ones introduced. It galls me immensely to have

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
I really like the workflow improvements, and the setup wizard is now intelligent enough that I might actually use it. Still, this new version isn't so sexy that I'd shell out $100 for it when I've only had FinMac 2K7 for less than a year. I'll be back next summer to see what Finale 2K9

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-28 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 10:26 AM -0700 6/27/07, Chuck Israels wrote: I just got an automatic "order" email from MM for the 2008 upgrade. Great Now I'll be nine years down the "upgrade" "path." When MM abandons their incredibly offensive phone-home copy-protection scheme I will upgrade. Until then I will

RE: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Richard Yates
Improvements for engravers are attractive: Document Styles, improved Selection Tool, ScoreMerge (assuming these are without the usual birthing bugs). Other addition are ominous: import of audio files suggests Finale is trying to be even more of a sequencer. Here is a cut and pasted list of 2008

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Ability to merge several files into one (Score merge), and the new selection tool and copy and paste are the only things that look good to me. I hadn't asked for these, but they seem significant to me. Not exactly small potatoes for

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Lots of fluff. (sounds, ability to import audio, colored note heads) Ability to merge several files into one (Score merge), and the new selection tool and copy and paste are the only things that look good to me. I wish they had some of the new Sibelius features, like Ideas, in there..

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Barbara Touburg
Can't we just reassign them with TGTools? Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oops, as I sent that, I noticed this http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/preview.aspx Aw crap! I just noticed this, from the Finale 2008 Interface Question in Support.

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Martin Banner
Yeah, yeah, I really hope Finale fixes most, if not all of the present bugs. However, most important to me is...can I get a Finale T-shirt if I upgrade? Martin (sorry, the heat's getting to me) Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale maili

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I seriously doubt that Finale will come anywhere close to Digital Performer finding tempo. I'd be really surprised if it did. And what about all the infinite tweaking you can do in DP? Heck, their SmartMusic program with the slowdown feature sounds terrible. Slow down something in that, and im

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
uh uh! No deal. I have tried this so often it makes me want to cry. Sure the Doc Opts lib. loads, but all the font selections are screwed up, so you have to go through all of them and correct them. Too time consuming. I'm surprised this hasn't raised others' hackles - maybe it's relat

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Lon Price
The "Import Audio" feature will be a big help to me. As stated in the preview: "import a stereo mix of your rock band to add a horn arrangement." This is exactly the type of thing that I do all the time. In the past I've had to do my horn arrangement in Digital Performer when the clie

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oops, as I sent that, I noticed this http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/preview.aspx Aw crap! I just noticed this, from the Finale 2008 Interface Question in Support. Ctrl/Apple-4 = Apply Note Spacing (was previously 4) Ctrl/Apple-5 =

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 27, 2007, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: There are interesting things for me in this preview. In 2007, the importation of Document Options libraries has been broken (Mac only), making the updating of older files tedious. Perhaps this has been repaired along with the new Document

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
There are interesting things for me in this preview. In 2007, the importation of Document Options libraries has been broken (Mac only), making the updating of older files tedious. Perhaps this has been repaired along with the new Document Styles feature. I can hope. If Score Merge works

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 27, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Oops, as I sent that, I noticed this http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/preview.aspx Hmm, I have to grudgingly admit; some of those new features look interesting for what I do a lot of. New Selection Tool/Mass Edit combined into one, Reco

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:41 PM 6/27/2007, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >So they don't have a page on it yet? No word about 2008?  http://finalemusic.com Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Oops, as I sent that, I noticed this http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/preview.aspx Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, I just got an automatic "order" email from MM for the 2008 upgrade. I am hoping, along with many of you, for a version that mainly repairs the things that are not working as they

Re: [Finale] 2008 must be on the way

2007-06-27 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So they don't have a page on it yet? No word about 2008? Just that they want your money for it? Hmmm Chuck Israels wrote: Hi all, I just got an automatic "order" email from MM for the 2008 upgrade. I am hoping, along with many of you, for a version that mainly repairs the things that are n