Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-24 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21.08.2009 Daniel Wolf wrote: But the most immediate concern is that I just got a set of parts returned from a major European radio orchestra. They are completely marked-up, with bowings and much more. Should the orchestra have cleaned them up? Should I erase all of these marks, or should

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-24 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: On 22 Aug 2009 at 12:19, David Fenton wrote: What you get from New Yorkers is no nonsense, no chitchat, no false courtesy. As well as an amazing variety of profanity mixed in for good measure. I love generalizations. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstud

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-23 Thread David W. Fenton
On 23 Aug 2009 at 19:13, Blake Richardson wrote: > On 22 Aug 2009 at 12:19, David Fenton wrote: > > > What you get from New Yorkers is no nonsense, no chitchat, no false > > courtesy. > > As well as an amazing variety of profanity mixed in for good measure. Well, that entirely depends on which

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-23 Thread noel jones
And usually !...@#$ unoriginal. David, living there, may, like most NY'ers, become so used to it that it disappears. Noel Jones, AAGO 423 887-7594 noeljo...@usit.net www.thecatholichymnal.com Friends, life is short and we do not have much time to gladden the hearts of those who travel wi

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-23 Thread Carl Dershem
Blake Richardson wrote: On 22 Aug 2009 at 12:19, David Fenton wrote: What you get from New Yorkers is no nonsense, no chitchat, no false courtesy. As well as an amazing variety of profanity mixed in for good measure. Everyone needs a hobby. :) cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershe

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-23 Thread Blake Richardson
On 22 Aug 2009 at 12:19, David Fenton wrote: > What you get from New Yorkers is no nonsense, no chitchat, no false > courtesy. As well as an amazing variety of profanity mixed in for good measure. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.s

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I'm not sure anyone is going to get any useful information about CONCERT music rates from a company specialising in GRAND RIGHTS, which typically run 2 to 4 times as much as concert rights, or even more. Rodgers and Ham charge way more than other companies, because they can. I would call AS

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread Lee Actor
> > i remember not seeing any example of parts costing more than 1000 > > (eur/usd) to rent. this "price ceiling" is what large-scale opera and > > some major orchestral works will cost. there can be 2nd performance > > (75%) and even 3rd performance (50%) discounts within a certain > > timeframe

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:00 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: i remember not seeing any example of parts costing more than 1000 (eur/usd) to rent. this "price ceiling" is what large-scale opera and some major orchestral works will cost. there can be 2nd performance (75%) and even 3rd performance

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Aug 2009 at 12:19, Patrick Sheehan wrote: > the receptionist > people don't like long explanations; they WILL hang up on you (part of the > rude population of NYC). New Yorkers are not rude. There are certainly some people in NYC who are rude, but it's not because they are New Yorkers, bu

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread Lora Crighton
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Patrick Sheehan wrote: > Call them up and ask for their librarian or musicologist; > the receptionist > people don't like long explanations; they WILL hang up on > you (part of the > rude population of NYC). They have musicologists - tell me more. I'd love to find a job like

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
also, i have never heard of "clean up" charges actually being applied, although i'm sure sometimes they are. i think the pricing is used to encourage the body renting the parts to return them free of markings under the threat of exorbitant clean up fees if the publisher has to do it. _

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread shirling & neueweise
i seem to remember having come across catalogues online with rental prices but all the catalogues i saved back when looking at this same sort of thing are without rental prices listed... but maybe i am remembering having access to prices through a job i had in an arts library. i remember no

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread John Howell
At 12:19 PM -0500 8/21/09, Patrick Sheehan wrote: You should contact Music Theatre International (MTI.com) (a musical rental company) and find out what they charge for a school or professional company. Or Rodgers & Hammerstein Theatricals or Tams-Witmark , the other two major licensing agen

RE: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-21 Thread Patrick Sheehan
Rental parts are nothing but a means to make life difficult for any conductor who wishes to use them. This is exactly why I don't publish my works; dealing with publishers and editors and even rentals is something I do not want to be a part of...ever. If people want to buy my works, they simply co

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-20 Thread dhbailey
Daniel Wolf wrote: I need some collective wisdom from the Finale list about a practical publishing matter. The modest publishing cooperative I belong to has recently begun renting sets of orchestral parts. I'm completely new to this and many of the trade practices are all very mysterious to

Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?

2009-08-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 8/20/2009 6:43 PM, Daniel Wolf wrote: bargaining position vis a vis the publishers.) But the most immediate concern is that I just got a set of parts returned from a major European radio orchestra. They are completely marked-up, with bowings and much more. Should the orchestra have cleaned