Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1 - Reviews and Comments welcome (since this will sooner or later concern you all)

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le 25 janv. 2004, à 0:03, Darian Lanx a écrit : 5.) Avoid Me Too Messages Me too is not enough content, but too much annoyance. Not OK with it. For Fink developers, it's a good way to know there is a problem with some package, not only an issue related to a particular installation on a

Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1

2004-01-25 Thread Jonathan Levi MD
At 8:24 AM +0100 1/25/04, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 25 janv. 2004, à 0:03, Darian Lanx a écrit : 5.) Avoid Me Too Messages Me too is not enough content, but too much annoyance. Not OK with it. For Fink developers, it's a good way to know there is a problem with some package, not only an

Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1 - Reviews and Comments welcome (since this will sooner or later concern you all)

2004-01-25 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 25 janv. 2004, à 0:03, Darian Lanx a écrit : 5.) Avoid Me Too Messages Me too is not enough content, but too much annoyance. Not OK with it. For Fink developers, it's a good way to know there is a problem with some

[Fink-beginners] Segmentation Fault Using Mutt-SSL

2004-01-25 Thread Scot Johnson
I've been getting segmentation faults when using mutt-ssl. It happens when I'm in the message index: when I select a message, mutt crashes while trying to display the message. I searched the fink-beginner's list archive and followed the advice to run sudo

[Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Ari A. Lamstein
I've noticed that in emacs my mouse can highlight stuff, but can't click on the menu options (File, Edit, etc.). Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. Ari Lamstein http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~lamstein --- The SF.Net email is sponsored

[Fink-beginners] Running clisp from emacs

2004-01-25 Thread Ari A. Lamstein
Can anyone tell me how to run clisp from emacs? I've been fiddling with the emacs tutorial for a while, but I can't seem to figure it out by myself. Thanks. Ari Lamstein http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~lamstein --- The SF.Net email is

Re: [Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Ari A. Lamstein wrote: I've noticed that in emacs my mouse can highlight stuff, but can't click on the menu options (File, Edit, etc.). Does anyone know how to fix this? Which emacs are you talking about? If you mean the /usr/bin/emacs that runs in a Terminal.app window, then this is normal.

Re: [Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Ari A. Lamstein
Yes, I meant (I think) the usr/bin/emacs - I don't know of any other one. When I press F10 all the windows on my desktop spread apart - it doesn't have any effect on emacs. Ari Lamstein http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~lamstein On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Martin Costabel wrote: Ari A. Lamstein wrote:

[Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
As far as I *knew*, fink was installed and working just fine. But I've noticed, over the last week or so that when I run update-all nothing gets updated... let's say I have a few hundred packages installed... it is really possible that I could go weeks without any of them updating when I run

Re: [Fink-beginners] Segmentation Fault Using Mutt-SSL

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Have you tried to rebuild mutt-ssl after you updated prebinding? -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Scot Johnson wrote: I've been getting segmentation faults when using mutt-ssl. It happens when I'm in the message index:

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
well, what if *did* run fink selfupdate? :-) J. On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Alexander Hansen wrote: Sure--if you don't also run fink selfupdate. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 12:11 PM, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: As far as

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Then you'd get the updates: fink selfupdate downloads the new package information and fink update-all applies the updates. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: well, what if *did* run fink

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
I understand that... well.. it *seems* as if selfupdate is working, but when I run update-all this is all it returns: Information about 1327 packages read in 24 seconds. No packages to install. bash-2.05a$ I've been getting that response for several days now. It seems implausible to me but

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
ah! That explains it... well, i guess I better not change trees until I upgrade to Panther, eh? J. On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Remi Mommsen wrote: Hi, Which tree do you use? If you use 10.2 then I wouldn't expect any updates any more. This tree is no longer updated. HTH, Remi On

[Fink-beginners] fink update-all fails

2004-01-25 Thread Robert
Fink update-all fails with the following readout. src/root-bug-buddy-2.4.1-4/sw/share/info/dir /sw/src/root-bug-buddy-2.4.1-4/sw/share/info/dir.old /bin/rm -rf bug-buddy-2.4.1-4 Writing control file... Finding prebound objects... Writing dependencies... Writing package script postinst...

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Remi Mommsen
Hi Joshua, On Jan 25, 2004, at 9:34 AM, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: That explains it... well, i guess I better not change trees until I upgrade to Panther, eh? You don't have to upgrade to Panther necessarily. You can install the August 2003 developer tools update from Apple which will give you

Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1 - Reviews and Comments welcome (since this will sooner or later concern you all)

2004-01-25 Thread Remi Mommsen
Hi Darian, I think it is a good idea to provide some guidelines for posting to fink mailing lists. I would propose to not just restrict these guidelines to fink-beginners, but also include fink-users and maybe fink-devel. IMHO, it would be worthwhile to say some words about which list should

Re: [Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Ari A. Lamstein wrote: Yes, I meant (I think) the usr/bin/emacs - I don't know of any other one. Well, since we are on a Fink mailing list, I could name you a couple :-) When I press F10 all the windows on my desktop spread apart - it doesn't have any effect on emacs. Yes, that's why I said:

Netiquette for all lists? was-(Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1 - .[...])

2004-01-25 Thread Darian Lanx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Remi Mommsen wrote: Hi Darian, I think it is a good idea to provide some guidelines for posting to fink mailing lists. I would propose to not just restrict these guidelines to fink-beginners, but also include fink-users and maybe fink-devel.

Re: [Fink-beginners] really dumb question...

2004-01-25 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Joshua, Am Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:34:50 -0500 (EST), schrieb Joshua S. Freeman: ah! That explains it... well, i guess I better not change trees until I upgrade to Panther, eh? Why not. The 10.2-gcc3.3 tree was pretty stable as long as I had no Panther running I had no special problems

[Fink-beginners] Can't install Fink

2004-01-25 Thread Fred Stinson
When I try to use the Fink 0.6.2 installer I get the following message: Fink 0.6.2 Installer cannot be installed on this computer. A root directory /sw exists. Please see the Read Me file for update instructions, or for information on installing Fink on a separate volume. I am running OS X

Re: [Fink-beginners] Can't install Fink

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
They look like they were installed by Virex 7.2 (from .Mac). If you've updated Virex to a later version or aren't still using it you can delete them. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 4:28 PM, Fred Stinson wrote: When I try to

Re: [Fink-beginners] Can't install Fink

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Fred Stinson wrote: [pcp08119551pcs:/sw/lib] fred% ls -al total 4872 drwxrwxr-x 7 root staff 238 8 Feb 2003 . drwxrwxr-x 3 root staff 102 8 Feb 2003 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 945416 14 Jan 2003 libcrypto.0.9.6.dylib -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 634480 14 Jan 2003

Re: [Fink-beginners] Fink-Beginners Netiquette Draft 1 - Reviews and Comments welcome (since this will sooner or later concern you all)

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
I've thought of an additional Fink-list specific item: Please either use Reply To All or reply only to the list. Reasons: 1) Having the whole list read the message increases the odds that someone has experienced your problem or remembers a solution. 2) Other people benefit from the

Re: [Fink-beginners] help

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
What do you get from fink list freetype? There must be something else going on that what I initially thought. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 2:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip> gcc -O3 -funroll-loops -fstrict-aliasing

Re: [Fink-beginners] fink update-all fails

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Were you running two builds simultaneously? -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 12:55 PM, Robert wrote: Fink update-all fails with the following readout. snip dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/gnome/bug-

Re: [Fink-beginners] help

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Hmm--so your freetype stuff all comes from X11. The FAQ said to reinstall X11 and the SDK. You might try to clear out all of the X11 files first: sudo rm -rf /usr/X11R6 then reinstall X11 and the X11 SDK. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan

[Fink-beginners] terminal characters unreadable in dselect

2004-01-25 Thread Jon Bjorkman
I just installed fink from the package (Fink-0.6.2-Installer.dmg) on Mac OS 10.2.6 with XFree86 installed. When I run dselect (from administrator account with sudo), it starts OK, but after I select a package and hit enter, the terminal goes into a reverse video mode with unreadable vt100 graphics

Re: [Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le 25 janv. 2004, à 18:01, Ari A. Lamstein a écrit : Yes, I meant (I think) the usr/bin/emacs - I don't know of any other one. When I press F10 all the windows on my desktop spread apart - it doesn't have any effect on emacs. Just change the key used for exposé in system preferences, so that

Re: [Fink-beginners] Running clisp from emacs

2004-01-25 Thread Jonathan Levi, M.D.
At 10:49 AM -0500 1/25/04, Ari A. Lamstein wrote: Can anyone tell me how to run clisp from emacs? I've been fiddling with the emacs tutorial for a while, but I can't seem to figure it out by myself. I've had only a little experience with clisp, somewhat more which emacs, so I may or may not be

Re: [Fink-beginners] emacs and the mouse

2004-01-25 Thread Jonathan Levi, M.D.
At 10:15 AM -0500 1/25/04, Ari A. Lamstein wrote: I've noticed that in emacs my mouse can highlight stuff, but can't click on the menu options (File, Edit, etc.). Does anyone know how to fix this? If I may offer a slightly different answer from Martin's, it depends on whether you launched Emacs

Re: [Fink-beginners] fink vs. apt-get

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
On Jan 25, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: can someone point me to a faq describing the relationship between fink and apt-get? apt-get manages packages in the binary distribution--i.e. released in a precompiled form. The fink command does the same thing for packages that are built

Re: [Fink-beginners] Deleting Fink and all packages

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Yes. The only exception is if you installed XFree86 with Fink. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 8:32 PM, Daniel wrote: I am a newb and I was wondering that if I use sudo rm -rf /sw will it delete all my installed packages as

Re: [Fink-beginners] fink vs. apt-get

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
Thanks Alexander, I ran pathsetup.command at the prompt.. it created the init.sh file, but I'm still getting no joy using apt-get.. or fink.. :-( it's still compalining about mutt and bitchx.. thanks for trying though! J. On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Alexander Hansen wrote: On Jan 25, 2004, at

Re: [Fink-beginners] fink vs. apt-get

2004-01-25 Thread Alexander Hansen
Try a new terminal window. The changes that get made don't get activated until you start a new shell session. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 10:12 PM, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: Thanks Alexander, I ran pathsetup.command at the

Re: [Fink-beginners] fink vs. apt-get

2004-01-25 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
dang! :-) thanks! J. On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Alexander Hansen wrote: Try a new terminal window. The changes that get made don't get activated until you start a new shell session. -- Alexander K. Hansen Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX On Jan 25, 2004, at 10:12

Re: [Fink-beginners] Installing pymol fails

2004-01-25 Thread Daniel Macks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am installing 'pymol' but it fails with the message below. [within contrib/] cd modules;make gcc -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I/sw/include/python2.3 -I/sw/include/python2.3 @DEFS@ -I/sw/include -c ././ExtensionClass.c -o ./ExtensionClass.o gcc:

[Fink-beginners] Installed Fink --need gcc 3.3 of course (read on...)

2004-01-25 Thread Eric Lecht
Yeah I read the FAQ. Saw it needed gcc 3.3 or so it seems. I installed it anyway (I was tired) Fink installed OK, but installing OTHER stuffwell of course i'm running up against the need for gcc 3.3. Went to Apple, it *appears* to get gcc 3.3 one must install the whole 600+ MB XTools SDK.