Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Costabel
Alexander Hansen wrote: > Martin Costabel wrote: >> Alexander Hansen wrote: >> [] >>> Do we have the skilled-person-hours to pull it off, though? >> We have a couple of more important things to do: >> >> For example, accept the texlive package and make a system-tex package, >> so that the tetex mes

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
Martin Costabel wrote: > Alexander Hansen wrote: >> Martin Costabel wrote: >>> Alexander Hansen wrote: >>> [] Do we have the skilled-person-hours to pull it off, though? >>> We have a couple of more important things to do: >>> >>> For example, accept the texlive package and make a system-tex p

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Jack Howarth
Huh? What problems? I've have... ii qt33.3.8-1028 Cross-Platform GUI application framework ii qt3-designer 3.3.8-1028 Cross-Platform GUI application framework ii qt3-designer-s 3.3.8-1028 Cross-Platform GUI application framework ii qt3-doc3.3.8-1028 Cross-

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
Martin Costabel wrote: > Alexander Hansen wrote: > [] >> Do we have the skilled-person-hours to pull it off, though? > > We have a couple of more important things to do: > > For example, accept the texlive package and make a system-tex package, > so that the tetex mess can be cleaned up once and fo

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Costabel
Alexander Hansen wrote: [] > Do we have the skilled-person-hours to pull it off, though? We have a couple of more important things to do: For example, accept the texlive package and make a system-tex package, so that the tetex mess can be cleaned up once and for all; For example, make qt3 and qt

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
Jack Howarth wrote: > I got a clarification from Jeremy about the X11 support > in MacPorts. They went through a phase when building against > both the system and MacPorts X11 was allowed. Now everything > must build against the MacPorts X11 or it is considered a > packaging bug. I don't know if

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Jack Howarth
I got a clarification from Jeremy about the X11 support in MacPorts. They went through a phase when building against both the system and MacPorts X11 was allowed. Now everything must build against the MacPorts X11 or it is considered a packaging bug. I don't know if anyone here wants to assume th

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Jack Howarth
As shown from the response I posted from Jeremy Huddleston at Apple, it won't help waiting for Xquartz on SL because all the files in Xquartz will be relocated into /opt to survive system software updates. This brings up the question of how we are going to handle this relocation in the first pla

[Fink-devel] [jerem...@apple.com: Re: X11 2.4.0 beta for SL?]

2009-08-29 Thread Jack Howarth
Here is the response I got from Jeremy Huddleston who does the Xquartz releases. Note that waiting on a Xquartz release for SL won't help since all of Xquartz's X11 files will be relocated in /opt to allow it to survive system software updates. Jack ps We could take the MacPorts opti

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
Daniel Macks wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 09:58:06AM -0400, Alexander Hansen wrote: > >> This isn't any different than the usual issues we've had on 10.5, when >> you get down to it. System updates cause regressions with respect the >> libraries in Xquartz, and Xcode updates regress the hea

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Daniel Macks
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 09:58:06AM -0400, Alexander Hansen wrote: > This isn't any different than the usual issues we've had on 10.5, when > you get down to it. System updates cause regressions with respect the > libraries in Xquartz, and Xcode updates regress the headers and libtool > archives (n

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Costabel
Alexander Hansen wrote: [] > I didn't realize when I wrote my prior message that it was the _Xquartz_ > update that wasn't going to be put into release until December. The problem appears only if xquartz-2.4.0 was installed. If no Fink package was built against anything more recent than xquartz-2

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread William G. Scott
>> > This isn't any different than the usual issues we've had on 10.5, when > you get down to it. System updates cause regressions with respect the > libraries in Xquartz, and Xcode updates regress the headers and > libtool > archives (not to mention just clobbering them outright). One HUGE imp

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
William G. Scott wrote: > Hi folks: > > After upgrading, I discovered that the SL (10.6) distributed X11.app > clobbers the X11.app v. 2.4.0 I had installed, and (unlike with 10.5.X > point updates), there are no plans to release an X11.app update before > ca. December. So this means users wh

Re: [Fink-devel] SL X11.app regressions relative to X11.app 2.4.0

2009-08-29 Thread Alexander Hansen
William G. Scott wrote: > Hi folks: > > After upgrading, I discovered that the SL (10.6) distributed X11.app > clobbers the X11.app v. 2.4.0 I had installed, and (unlike with 10.5.X > point updates), there are no plans to release an X11.app update before > ca. December. So this means users wh