Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 02:01 PM, Max Horn wrote: > No, since the debian tools require root access. Debian solves this with > the fakeroot tool, but you can't just recompile that for OS X, it has > to be rewritten. Finlay and me were looking into it a bit, not sure if > Finlay is st

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 01:42 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > >> And compare the number of Debian build servers, Debian donations, and >> just resources in general. >> > SF provides a compile farm. Could those be used

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Max Horn
At 8:42 Uhr -0500 26.01.2002, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: >On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > >>And compare the number of Debian build servers, Debian donations, >>and just resources in general. >> >SF provides a compile farm. Could those be used as build servers?

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > And compare the number of Debian build servers, Debian > donations, and just resources in general. > SF provides a compile farm. Could those be used as build servers? ___ Fink-devel

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread El JoPe Magnifico
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 09:33 pm, Max Horn wrote: >> Oh and to mention one more difference: count the number of active >> debian developers. The count the total number of active fink >> developers. Compare the numbers. Think. > > And compare

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 09:33 pm, Max Horn wrote: > At 16:11 Uhr -0500 16.01.2002, David R. Morrison wrote: >> (Sorry for the incomplete message, I hit the wrong button!) >> >> That being said, we have not yet gotten a smooth system working for >> creating binaries on a regular basis

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Max Horn
At 16:11 Uhr -0500 16.01.2002, David R. Morrison wrote: >(Sorry for the incomplete message, I hit the wrong button!) > >That being said, we have not yet gotten a smooth system working for >creating binaries on a regular basis, and there was an unfortunate >technical problem about a week ago which

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread El JoPe Magnifico
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Max Horn wrote: > With fink, for every package there is an .info file (and possibly a > .patch file, too). Fink then uses the data from this .info file to > retrieve the source tarball(s), expand them, patch them, compile > everything, and then package it into a .deb (this is

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread David R. Morrison
(Sorry for the incomplete message, I hit the wrong button!) That being said, we have not yet gotten a smooth system working for creating binaries on a regular basis, and there was an unfortunate technical problem about a week ago which wiped out some old binaries. So please be patient with us --

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread David R. Morrison
Let me mention one difference between debian and fink. Right now, the debian distribution is divided into free, contrib, non-free sections. We haven't made this division formally in fink, but it is only the *free* portion that we will provide binaries for. The "unstable" part of fink is just th

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Matt Wallace
> Well, it's not weak, though perhaps a bit strained. qmail by Dan > Berstein is under a source-only distribution. He allows for binary > distributions in a very narrow set of circumstances. I believe most > of his other software is as well. I can certainly see it happening, > even if it is uncomm

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Max Horn
At 15:37 Uhr -0500 16.01.2002, Matt Wallace wrote: > > We don't want to be sued. If a packages doesn't have a license field, >> it won't get into the bindist. If it is under a restrictive license >> which forbids binary redistribution, it won't get into the bindist. >> If a package possibly in

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Zachery Bir
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 03:37 , Matt Wallace wrote: > Also I think the, "we don't want to get sued" line is weak. If > somebody > has a problem with their software being distributed they mail the > list and > it's taken off the distribution. But more to the point, if someone is > d

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Matt Wallace
> We don't want to be sued. If a packages doesn't have a license field, > it won't get into the bindist. If it is under a restrictive license > which forbids binary redistribution, it won't get into the bindist. > If a package possibly infringes patents (like libgif does with the > unisys patent),

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Max Horn
At 8:01 Uhr -0800 16.01.2002, Evan Martin wrote: >On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:10:55AM +0100, Max Horn wrote: >> I think you really should have first informed yourself a bit better >> about fink before posting this! I think it's a bit embarassing to see >> people post to fink-devel who haven't ev

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Justin Hallett
dpkg -l /*/* <--- to see if it is apt-getable fink list <--- to see if it exists in fink at all. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >This last step seems odd-- there are two separate ways to install >packages? How can I tell from the fink page whether a package is >installable via apt-get or fink? ΒΈ.

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Evan Martin
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:10:55AM +0100, Max Horn wrote: > I think you really should have first informed yourself a bit better > about fink before posting this! I think it's a bit embarassing to see > people post to fink-devel who haven't even bothered to read the docs. > > We do offere binari

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Max Horn
I think you really should have first informed yourself a bit better about fink before posting this! I think it's a bit embarassing to see people post to fink-devel who haven't even bothered to read the docs. We do offere binaries (.deb files), and you indeed can use apt-get and dselect. Fink i

[Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-15 Thread Evan Martin
I'm a longtime (maybe four years, now!) Debian user who bought a Mac laptop because of Fink, so excuse me if I go about this the wrong way, but: Why do we even have this "fink" program? What about the Debian system didn't work? If you look at the fink-beginners mailing list, they're literally