Re: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Henry Schaffer
I read the Abstract at SSRN but didn't read the 100+ page paper. Reading the Abstract gave me a feeling that a *lot* of tests of significance were done. It is well known in statistics that if one runs enough tests that eventually, maybe pretty soon, that one will get a significant result (p <

Re: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Waldron
Except that while Detroit and New Orleans both have/had high crime rates, neither has strict gun control. Louisiana is a shall issue state, as is Michigan, and Detroit's police chief is solidly pro-gun and advises citizens to get a gun "and shoot home invaders." (Ditto Milwaukee County, WI's

RE: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Guy Smith
I have not yet read and pondered it, but Lott’s rebuttal to new coverage of Donohue et al is at: http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/2014/11/problems-with-the-washington-posts-and-huffington-posts-more-guns-more-crime-claims/ From: firearmsregprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:

RE: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Don Kilmer
The study is pretty easy to pick apart using the FBI crime stats website. Also it is pretty easy to control for the most violent cities with the strictest gun control: New York, Chicago, Detroit, Wash D.C., New Orleans. Donald E. J. Kilmer, Jr. Attorney at Law (SBN: 179986) Law Offices

RE: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Guy Smith
I started reviewing the paper, but have had to put it on hold due to competing priorities. That being said, I’m seeing a repeating patterns in obfuscation that Donohue seems to prefer. Mainly in citing contentious sources as authoritative, and using prose so turgid as to induce sleep in anyo

Re: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Olson, Joseph E.
In obtuse academic-speak they admit they are just guesses wrapped in a red ribbon. ** Professor (Emeritus) Joseph Olson, J.D.(*Honors,* Duke) o 651-523-2518 Ham

Re: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Henry Schaffer
I've only read the news article, not the research paper, and the first thing is see is correlation - which is not the same as causation. Then the language shifts to causation. I need to read the research paper before commenting on the research. --henry schaffer On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Gr

Re: New Stanford gun control study

2014-11-20 Thread Greg Jacobs
> >Today's Topics: > > 1. New Stanford gun control study (Daniel D. Todd) > > >-- > > >Has anyone reviewed the methodology and findings of the new Stanford study? > >http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/november/donohue-guns-stud