RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors (and imprecision)

2010-02-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
[mailto:firearmsregprof- > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM > To: firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors (and imprecision) > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:58:14AM -0800, Volok

Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors (and imprecision)

2010-02-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 09:58:14AM -0800, Volokh, Eugene wrote: > Joe: I'm just not sure that this sort of imprecision - use "permit" to > mean "concealed carry license," even though on its face it could mean > "gun ownership permit" - would advance the reporter's supposed anti-gun > bias. And th

Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Daniel D. Todd
rearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu" Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:32:58 AM Subject: RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors I appreciate Joe’s general point, and it may well be correct. My point was simply that this particular imprecision was probably not an ex

Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Jon Roland
It is important to recognize that almost all of these misstatements originally come from press releases, mostly issued by agencies of government. Although reporters do sometimes insert misstatements on their own, the odds are this one came from the local cops, or also likely, from the FBI or ot

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
ehalf Of Joseph E. Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:25 AM To: firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors Eugene is less cynical that I am. And that's a good thing. It's the consistency of errors, all in the same direction (even if a

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Joseph E. Olson
Eugene is less cynical that I am. And that's a good thing. It's the consistency of errors, all in the same direction (even if a few boomerang like this one), that raises my suspicions. BTW, I had no suspecion until the day in 1994 (or thereabouts) when a Minneapolis Tribune reporter told me that

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Guy Smith
uesday, February 16, 2010 9:30 AM To: firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors Old saying in military intelligence -- "Once is error, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action [i.e., deliberate]." People in the media continuousl

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors (and imprecision)

2010-02-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Of Joseph E. Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:30 AM To: firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors Old saying in military intelligence -- "Once is error, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action [i.e., deliberate]." People in th

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
:36 AM To: Volokh, Eugene; firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors Yes, there are sometimes innocent errors, but most of the media are not above becoming cultural warriors. Ray Kessler Prof. of Criminal Justice Sul Ross State Univ. From: firearmsregpr

RE: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Raymond Kessler
, Eugene Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:09 AM To: 'firearmsregprof@lists.ucla.edu' Subject: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors I agree that the media often errs badly, especially about guns but also otherwise. Check out the Boston Globe article about Bishop

Re: Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Joseph E. Olson
Old saying in military intelligence -- "Once is error, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action [i.e., deliberate]." People in the media continuously make this same "error." It's hard to believe they could all by honestly mistaken (especially a local Alabama reporter like the AP stringer

Media lies, distortions, and innocent errors

2010-02-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I agree that the media often errs badly, especially about guns but also otherwise. Check out the Boston Globe article about Bishop's killing her brother 24 years before: "the girl had fought with her brother in the 1986 incident, then shot him with a shotgun and fled down the st