Re: [BULK] Disarm and shoot legalities

2007-09-21 Thread Philip F. Lee
No, not a justification for shooting anyone -- perhaps shooting those close at hand who have previously attacked you with a deadly weapon which you have now in your possession, and who refuse your lawful orders consistent with trying to place them under citizens arrest (as you move away to

RE: [BULK] Disarm and shoot legalities

2007-09-20 Thread Raymond Kessler
Interesting hypo! Let's look at it from the 4th Amend. perspective. Some would argue that Tenn. v. Garner would apply, but I would argue that Tenn. v. Garner is a fleeing suspect case and that if the suspect is not fleeing anything else in Garner is dictum. If Garner doesn't apply then we have

RE: [BULK] Disarm and shoot legalities

2007-09-20 Thread Philip F. Lee
Have you searched him to insure he has no deadly weapons at hand? Police experience with a person with a knife can close a distance of 21 ft. or less and strike a fatal blow before you can stop him with gun fire from most handguns. That is why they shoot persons with knives who get too