> On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
> wrote:
>
> There were UDR examples I wrote with master/slave terms and I'll change
> them.
For what little it’s worth, this is not a new discussion. When the VAX was
being developed (1980) there was a move to eliminate violent
Dne 18. 06. 20 v 14:27 Mark Rotteveel napsal(a):
Depending on the context, other usable terms to replace master could be
agency
hive
primary
conductor
captain
schemer
guide
Oh dear! Master is a "title" linked to top authority and professionalism
in
>90 years passed since the last book burning. Hardly can anyone remember so
> the new loop can start.
Actually. Book burnings have been occurred much more recently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_book-burning_incidents
As recently, as 2013 in the US and 2019 in Poland.
Sean
18.06.2020 14:27, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
Depending on the context, other usable terms to replace master could be
agency
hive
primary
conductor
captain
schemer
guide
Well, I think after this censorship fb_get_primary_interface() routine can return
pointer
On 2020-06-18 12:42, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
18.06.2020 09:48, Pavel Cisar wrote:
If you would be raised in Europe (especially central or eastern) in
last century (or another place ruled by One Truth Owners), you would
not be so surprised.
90 years passed since the last book burning.
On 2020-06-18 14:02, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
18.06.2020 13:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
So while a master is a specific type of owner, the term owner itself
does not have the same meaning as master.
So we can safety replace "master/slave" with "owner/owned", right?
In the case of
18.06.2020 13:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
So while a master is a specific type of owner, the term owner itself does not have the
same meaning as master.
So we can safety replace "master/slave" with "owner/owned", right?
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On 2020-06-18 11:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
18.06.2020 10:05, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to
find substitutions for "owner", "invalid", "dependency" and
"creator".
First and third offend ex-slaves, second - disabled people, last -
18.06.2020 11:46, Molnár Attila wrote:
owner : ownership is a legal term basicly. It gives the owner rights over the
owned property.
Yes and slaves is an usual example of such property.
master : master has actual power over the slave to command/control the slave.
The actual power
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18.06.2020 10:05, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
>> BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to
>> find s
18.06.2020 09:48, Pavel Cisar wrote:
If you would be raised in Europe (especially central or eastern) in last century (or
another place ruled by One Truth Owners), you would not be so surprised.
90 years passed since the last book burning. Hardly can anyone remember so the new loop
can
18.06.2020 10:05, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to
find substitutions for "owner", "invalid", "dependency" and "creator".
First and third offend ex-slaves, second - disabled people, last -
religious ones.
I'm sorry, but that is just
On 2020-06-18 00:06, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
18.06.2020 00:00, Leyne, Sean wrote:
"they" is also accepted as a singular, although it seems
ungrammatical.
Ok, thanks.
BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to
find substitutions for "owner", "invalid",
On 2020-06-17 22:07, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
17.06.2020 21:55, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
the commonly accepted gender-neutral term is singular they.
I don't know English well enough, sorry. What is singular for
"they"? "This"..?
Singular they is simply using "they" instead of he/she,
Sean,
Dne 18. 06. 20 v 0:15 Leyne, Sean napsal(a):
18.06.2020 00:00, Leyne, Sean wrote:
"they" is also accepted as a singular, although it seems ungrammatical.
Ok, thanks.
BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to find
substitutions for "owner", "invalid",
> 18.06.2020 00:00, Leyne, Sean wrote:
> > "they" is also accepted as a singular, although it seems ungrammatical.
>
>Ok, thanks.
>
>BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to find
> substitutions for "owner", "invalid", "dependency" and "creator". First and
>
18.06.2020 00:00, Leyne, Sean wrote:
"they" is also accepted as a singular, although it seems ungrammatical.
Ok, thanks.
BTW, when you start your search-and-replace work, don't forget to find substitutions
for "owner", "invalid", "dependency" and "creator". First and third offend
>I don't know English well enough, sorry. What is singular for "they"?
> "This"..?
"they" is also accepted as a singular, although it seems ungrammatical.
"you" or "them" are also accepted.
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17.06.2020 21:55, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
the commonly accepted gender-neutral term is singular they.
I don't know English well enough, sorry. What is singular for "they"?
"This"..?
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On 16-06-2020 21:51, Pavel Cisar wrote:
Certainly! And when we'll be at that, we should also use strictly
gender-neutral terms everywhere and replace the red color with rainbow
in our logo!
Hail to the correctness, take no prisoners!
I think this is rather insensitive and tone-deaf. Using
On 17-06-2020 11:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
17.06.2020 02:57, Leyne, Sean wrote:
I don't see why we shouldn't be doing the same.
Because we have no resources and time to waste to it...?
But I found idea to be gender-neutral very attractive. From this on
I'll use politically
Adriano,
Dne 17. 06. 20 v 18:52 Adriano dos Santos Fernandes napsal(a):
You like or not, the market will do things and specifically about
replication, the terms where being changed already and will advance.
There is no dispute that terminology evolves and if there are terms that
are more
On 17/06/2020 13:26, Pavel Cisar wrote:
> Sean,
>
> Dne 17. 06. 20 v 17:09 Leyne, Sean napsal(a):
>>
>> Time to perform a simple search and replace!?!!
>>
>> If the terms being discussed were "commie", "chink", "pollack",
>> "spik" "n.gg.r" would they be any less problematic?
>
> More argument
Sean,
Dne 17. 06. 20 v 17:09 Leyne, Sean napsal(a):
Time to perform a simple search and replace!?!!
If the terms being discussed were "commie", "chink", "pollack", "spik" "n.gg.r"
would they be any less problematic?
More argument fallacies? C'mon! I'm sure you can do better.
Would we be
17.06.2020 17:22, Leyne, Sean wrote:
If someone would help me with git, I would more than happily do it.
Git have a very good documentation. Just type "git help" in command line.
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> 17.06.2020 17:09, Leyne, Sean wrote:
> > Time to perform a simple search and replace!?!!
>
>Ah, ok. Feel free to prepare PR.
If someone would help me with git, I would more than happily do it.
(Just as I helped cleaning up the original FB codebase on legacy arch's).
Sean
17.06.2020 17:09, Leyne, Sean wrote:
Time to perform a simple search and replace!?!!
Ah, ok. Feel free to prepare PR.
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> > I don't see why we shouldn't be doing the same.
>
>Because we have no resources and time to waste to it...?
Time to perform a simple search and replace!?!!
If the terms being discussed were "commie", "chink", "pollack", "spik" "n.gg.r"
would they be any less problematic?
Would we
17.06.2020 12:35, Lester Caine wrote:
Same discussion is going on on many lists
Yeah, a million of lemmings can't run wrong.
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On 17/06/2020 10:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
17.06.2020 02:57, Leyne, Sean wrote:
I don't see why we shouldn't be doing the same.
Because we have no resources and time to waste to it...?
Same discussion is going on on many lists but the general consensus
seems to be to wait until
On 2020-06-16 19:53, Karol Bieniaszewski wrote:
>> we may have black list instead white list like now.
As always better is to have both black + white.
Both lists is something non logical. If feature belongs to both lists -
is it allowed or denied? If it does not belong to both them?
17.06.2020 02:57, Leyne, Sean wrote:
I don't see why we shouldn't be doing the same.
Because we have no resources and time to waste to it...?
But I found idea to be gender-neutral very attractive. From this on I'll use
politically correct word "it" instead of offending "he" and "she"
Dne 17. 06. 20 v 2:57 Leyne, Sean napsal(a):
If much larger projects than ours can make these changes, I don't see why we
shouldn't be doing the same.
When I was a kid and came up with such classic "Bandwagon Fallacy", my
mother asked me "If others would go and jump off the cliff, does
> Certainly! And when we'll be at that, we should also use strictly
> gender-neutral
> terms everywhere and replace the red color with rainbow in our logo!
>
> Hail to the correctness, take no prisoners!
If much larger projects than ours can make these changes, I don't see why we
shouldn't
Dne 16. 06. 20 v 21:13 Leyne, Sean napsal(a):
we may have black list instead white list like now.
As always better is to have both black + white.
Even better would be "Allow" or "Allowed" and "Deny" or "Denied" terminology.
Sean
P.S.The same applies to the terms "master/slave"
> >> we may have black list instead white list like now.
>
> As always better is to have both black + white.
Even better would be "Allow" or "Allowed" and "Deny" or "Denied" terminology.
Sean
P.S.The same applies to the terms "master/slave" which should be
"Primary/Replica" or
>> we may have black list instead white list like now.
As always better is to have both black + white.
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