[Fis] [Fwd: Info Theory]--From Krassimir Markov

2011-01-31 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
*From:* Krassimir Markov mailto:mar...@foibg.com *Sent:* Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:13 AM *To:* fis@listas.unizar.es mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Info Theory Dear Colleagues, In the beginning of the XX-th century (approximately 100 years ago!) the great Bulgarian poet

[Fis] On Stan's reply to Gavin

2011-01-31 Thread Robin Faichney
Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:39:09 PM, Stanley wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Gavin Ritz garr...@xtra.co.nz wrote: SS: Info theory presumably applies to everything and anything. GR: It was never intended to apply to anything but communication instruments. That is sending English

[Fis] Announcing the New Session

2011-01-31 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers We are heading now towards a new discussion session, on *BACKGROUND TO MODERN SCIENCE.* It will be chaired by *Dr. James Hannan*. James Hannam has a BA in Physics from the University of Oxford and a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from the University of Cambridge.

Re: [Fis] On Stan's reply to Gavin

2011-01-31 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Robin -- On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Robin Faichney ro...@robinfaichney.orgwrote: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:39:09 PM, Stanley wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Gavin Ritz garr...@xtra.co.nz wrote: SS: Info theory presumably applies to everything and anything. GR: It was

[Fis] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Info Theory]--From John Collier

2011-01-31 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
(Msg. from John Collier) Unfortunately for your position, Krassimir, there is a well established usage of information in physics going back to Szillard's discussion of Maxwell's Demon in 1929, well before the dawn of communication theory. This usage is firmly entrenched in physics, used by

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Info Theory]--From John Collier

2011-01-31 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Greetings All, I want to second Joseph’s claim that something may be transferred as information, even if Stan’s “stuff” itself is not transferred. Waves, for example, can often pass from one medium into another without a concomitant transfer of stuff, and the form of the wave may be changed

Re: [Fis] On Stan's reply to Gavin

2011-01-31 Thread Robert Ulanowicz
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Robin Faichney ro...@robinfaichney.orgwrote: Conservation of information can be translated as meaning that physical laws do not break down, and the state of affairs at one time can be considered encoded in the state of affairs at another