Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Pedro, Terrence, and colleagues, “… to explain how this interpretive capacity could possibly originate in a universe where direct contiguity of causal influence is the rule." The contiguity is relational. However, meaning is generated not relationally, but positionally. As the networ

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Hi Guy, Yes. At the very basic level that I explore with these ultra simple model systems it would not be easy to distinguish perception and reaction. Both involve interpretive steps, in that only some material features—specifically those with potentially disruptive or constructive potential for s

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
Dear Pedro, Dear Terry, Always an optimist, I was convinced that there could be a convergence of your approaches and my Logic in Reality starting from the domain of absence. What Pedro refers to as "functional voids, needs, gaps, deficiencies" (absences) are all predominantly negative aspects of

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Hi Terry, I have used the term ‘perception’ in referring to in-formation that affects internal structure or dynamics. This would contrast with forms of potential information that might pass through the system without being ‘perceived’. For example, we have a finite number of mechanisms we cal

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Hi Pedro, Indeed, you capture a fundamental point of my work. I entirely agree with your comment about living processes and their internal "informative" organization. The three exceedingly simple molecular model systems (forms of autogenesis) that I discuss toward the end of the paper were intende

Re: [Fis] New Year Lecture: Aftermath

2015-04-24 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Terry and colleagues, I hope you don't mind if I send some suggestions publicly. First, thank you for the aftermath, it provides appropriate "closure" to a very intense discussion session. Second, I think you have encapsulated very clearly an essential point (at least in my opinion): /"