[Fis] Shannon-Weavers' Levels A, B, C.

Hey Mark, Sorry if I confused things by commenting on Bateson AND THEN Shannon-Weaver. In my mind those were two different matters, and did not merit my calling them out as such. In general . . . I too never saw Shanon-Weaver's Levels A, B, C as complete. In fact, I thought that portrayal

Re: [Fis] Shannon-Weavers' Levels A, B, C.

Maybe I've missed something, but the subsumption I mentioned (referring to Bateson) was not between A, B and C: these are co-existent interacting dynamics as I understand them, and certainly a very rigorous and powerful generative model. I was worrying about subsumption of Bateson's "imagination"

Re: [Fis] Shannon-Weavers' Levels A, B, C.

> On 2015-10-14, at 12:38 PM, Marcus Abundis wrote: > >> RE Mark Johnson's post of Thu Oct 1 09:47:13 on Bateson and imagination Two quick remarks: 1. It's not at all clear to me that C is subsumptive of B. 2. I would lobby for Shannon/Bayesian relationships as an intermediary between A. and B (

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The list is far from complete - organization is a form of information so is DNA see Kauffman, Logan et al. Propagation of Organization: An Enquiry at www.academia.edu/783503/Propagating_organization_an_enquiry Regards to all my FIS friends - Bob __ Robert K. Logan Prof.

Re: [Fis] Shannon-Weavers' Levels A, B, C.

Dear Marcus, Yes, that is the idea! The Self-Organization of Meaning and the Reflexive Communication of Information Loet Leydesdorff, Alexander Petersen, and Inga A. Ivanova Following a suggestion of Warren Weaver, we extend the Shannon model of

[Fis] Shannon-Weavers' Levels A, B, C.

RE Mark Johnson's post of Thu Oct 1 09:47:13 on Bateson and imagination . . . – Me Too! RE Loet & Stan's postings beginning Thu Oct 1 21:19:50 . . . > I suggest to distinguish between three levels (following Weaver): < > A. (Shannon-type) information processing ; < > B. meaning sharing using lan