Re: [Fis] Social constructivism

2014-01-08 Thread Stanley N Salthe
In my last posting for the week, I Reply to Hans -- QBism does not change any of the impressive successes of quantum mechanics. It simply says that quantum mechanics is a very complex, abstract encoding of the experiences of generations of scientists interacting with atomic systems. S: These g

Re: [Fis] Social constructivism

2014-01-08 Thread Dino Buzzetti
Dear Hans, Your rainbow metaphor is illuminating, but in my opinion it does not entail assuming a subjectivist Bayesian point of view. Quantum mechanics, as far as I understand it, assumes the interaction between the observer and the observed. This implies giving up positing the distinction betwe

Re: [Fis] Social constructivism

2014-01-07 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Hans von Baeyer Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:52 AM To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: [Fis] Social constructivism Stan asks: Would we be justified in viewing QBism the latest venture of [social] constructivism? WOW, I sure hope n

Re: [Fis] Social constructivism

2014-01-07 Thread Lars-Göran Johansson
In what sense does Qbism, as described below, differ from the Copenhagen Interpretation? I fail to see any substantial difference. And to my knowledge, none of the interpretations discussed after CI talks about any essences. And I think most (except deBroglie-Bohm interpretation) agree in reject

[Fis] Social constructivism

2014-01-07 Thread Hans von Baeyer
Stan asks: Would we be justified in viewing QBism the latest venture of [social] constructivism? WOW, I sure hope not! While it is true that there are fads in science, and that the direction of research is influenced to some degree by the society that funds it and consumes its fruits, I think tha