Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-04 Thread starfirefarm
This message is from: "starfirefarm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was a little confused the other day as it looked like the highest point on Finne's neck was in the middle instead of at the poll. But when I looked closer, I realized his head set was fine, but that the nice arch in his mane made his

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread Genie Dethloff
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "starfirefarm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IT SEEMS TO ME that "high headed" must logically be tied in with the neck, length, how it is seated and relates to the shoulders, etc. Yes, you are right Ruthie. Not necessarily

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread jgayle
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone noticed that "high headed" people get more notice than "head hangers"? Jean Gayle Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563

RE: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HmmmI was given an Arabian mare who had been trained with tie down type stuffI am not sure what it wasmaybe where the run the reins thru rings that create a rein action that is directed lower than your hands. Every time I tried t

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A horse can be high headed and not have presence, but horses (or other animals for that matter too) that have presence tend to hold their heads up with pride. Tamara On Wednesday, March 2, 2005, at 07:09 AM, starfirefarm wrote: It is m

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...Not necessarily the length of the neck, as a horse with a short neck can also be "up headed" or "high headed". ..Beth I'VE NEVER SEEN an undo example of this in Fjords, which is not to say... Shetlands, yes. Of course you're correc

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread starfirefarm
This message is from: "starfirefarm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> IT SEEMS TO ME that "high headed" must logically be tied in with the neck, length, how it is seated and relates to the shoulders, etc. Yes, you are right Ruthie. Not necessarily the length of the neck, as a horse with a short neck can

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are those who have very nice overall conformation, and they might receive a breeding license, but because they lack the presence of the special few, they may not be ranked in the top three. It is most important that the horse give

Re: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-03 Thread starfirefarm
This message is from: "starfirefarm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It would be interesting for the evaluators to be able to quantify in their own minds the physical things that result in their perception of "presence" as there is the possibility that we could be unconsciously moving in the direction of th

RE: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-02 Thread Alan Zohner
This message is from: "Alan Zohner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 1:29 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Stallion "presence" as highhea

Re: Stallion "presence"- like Ruth said.

2005-03-02 Thread Genie Dethloff
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think presence is a major asset in a show horse and I don't think it has anything to do with aggression or bad manners. I have a Border Terrier that has that presence. She made a fabulous

RE: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-02 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I remember seeing on a video of an early evaluation in Vermont, with Bob Van Bon, that he commented on Solar being like a mare...lacking the stallion presence that he had shown at evaluations in Holland and Norway. Lindsey Sweeney said late

Re: Stallion "presence"

2005-03-01 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, very well said. Charisma, pride, self-confidence whatever you want to call it. It comes from within and cannot be taught. When you see it you know it. Tamara On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 08:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Th

Re: Stallion "presence"- like Ruth said.

2005-03-01 Thread JadeBear
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think presence is a major asset in a show horse and I don't think it has anything to do with aggression or bad manners. I also don't think it's limited to stallions. I've seen mares with it and I own a gelding that's got it to burn. I think "pri

RE: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-01 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I remember seeing on a video of an early evaluation in Vermont, with Bob Van Bon, that he commented on Solar being like a mare...lacking the stallion presence that he had shown at evaluations in Holland and Norway. Lindsey Sweeney said late

Re: Stallion "presence"

2005-03-01 Thread Ruth Bushnell
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charisma is even harder to define.but I take it to mean that "hey you guys, have a look at glorious me" look. Gail SOMETHING LIKE THAT all right =)) I thought Peg said it well. The dictionary says that 'charisma' is an exceptiona

RE: Stallion "presence" as highheadedness?

2005-03-01 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Another thing that I believe contributes to the perception that people call "presence" is *high headedness.* Diamant's owner liked him because he has a tendency toward upheadedness, probably from his Rei Halsnaes breeding. His owner refe

RE: Stallion "presence"

2005-03-01 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Peg, Charisma is even harder to define.but I take it to mean that "hey you guys, have a look at glorious me" look. Rom was never really aggressive, but he could easily hurt someone if he was spending all his energy showing off to th

Re: Stallion "presence"

2005-03-01 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I totally agree with you, Peg. Presence is a hard thing to describe in an animal, but once you see it the concept becomes crystal clear. It is true of any mammal I think, and you will hear the term used in describing show animals wheth