Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-12 Thread John Dowdell
Zárate wrote, of inconsistent WMODE side-effects among browsers: If it's not up to Adobe fixing this, then I change my question to: Is Adobe NOW actively talking with browser manufacturers to solve this? I don't know for sure either way... I know that there are lots of discussions among

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-12 Thread Zárate
I'll try to find out more, particularly from the Player team's contacts with Microsoft, Mozilla, Apple and Opera. THANK YOU their complexity and inconsistency has caused real hurt to people too. THANK YOU I'd lean towards better guidance in documentation about the true potential costs of

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Zárate
Hi again, Browser differences are browser differences Well, I see your point here, but I think we're not talking about small things like rendering the border 1px bigger. We're talking about a huge amount of problems that just make the use of wmode impossible, IMHO. The Player is the same

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Ok, fair enough, it seems everything it's up to the browsers. However, users, bosses and even developers don't care about that. What they see is that the application is not working properly. What they see is that Flash is doing weird things _again_. What they see is that they cannot trust

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Zárate
Brilliant. Just brilliant. Now if someone points out a problem with Flash, then is an ignorant. Who do you think you are talking about people you don't know with such an arrogance? Either the player or the browsers are having problems using wmode and that's a FACT. You don't need to remind me

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:49 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player Brilliant. Just brilliant. Now if someone points out a problem with Flash, then is an ignorant. Who do you think you are talking about people you

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Brilliant. Just brilliant. Now if someone points out a problem with Flash, then is an ignorant. Who do you think you are talking about people you don't know with such an arrogance? Don't use wmode. It's that simple. You can complain about it until you're blue in the face and it won't do any

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Zárate
Hi again, I'm just trying to get an answer from Adobe about the problem, nothing more, nothing less. And if the answers is: hey dude, this is not going to work properly, ever, then please just completely remove wmode. It is getting people mad. Then, I don't care (well, I care, but that's not

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread slangeberg
Steven, I hate web development. That's why I do Flash development. Although highly subjective, I can't agree with you enough. The points you make capture my exact reasoning! However, I would argue that Flash has a great share of its own problems, but at least you're only dealing with one

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Merrill, Jason
then please just completely remove wmode. Not everyone has to develop cross-platform websites becauase they have specific target audiences that only use certain browsers and can thus make good use of wmode. I think what's needed is better documentation/disclaimers rather than throwing it out

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Mick G
if the answers is: hey dude, this is not going to work properly, ever, then please just completely remove wmode. It is getting people mad. It's not broken - people use it, look at the advertising industry using it on millions of pages/sites every day with their wonderful over the page

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
It's not broken - people use it, look at the advertising industry using it on millions of pages/sites every day with their wonderful over the page transparent advertising... Wonderful? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Mick G
Sorry - I should have italicized my sarcasm :) On 10/11/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not broken - people use it, look at the advertising industry using it on millions of pages/sites every day with their wonderful over the page transparent advertising... Wonderful?

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Zárate
Sorry guys, it's my fault. I'm feeling completely idiot right now for asking Adobe to fix and/or improve the player. Adobe, you know what? Don't bother, we can always say that HTML is worst. Who cares about crossplatform and stuff like that. It (seems to) work on Win/IE, so that's enough.

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-11 Thread Muzak
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player Sorry guys, it's my fault. I'm feeling completely idiot right now for asking Adobe to fix and/or improve the player. Adobe, you know what? Don't bother, we can always say that HTML

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-10 Thread Zárate
You might want to think it twice before using wmode: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wmode+problemsstart=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Anyone knows if Adobe is trying to fix this for the next release of the player? Cheers, Juan On 10/10/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's easy to

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-10 Thread Jason Je
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dowdell Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:39 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player Mick G wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash transparent on top of Windows Media Player

2006-10-09 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
It's easy to get the impression that the video is playing inside the the browser window but it isn't. The ActiveX control in the browser talks to Windows and tells it where to draw the video, which actually plays above the browser window. When you move the browser window around, it's telling the