Re: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 15 Feb 2008, simonjpalmer wrote: And if you take into consideration the cost of migration of your entire codebase from one version to the next Our existing Flex 2 project worked out the box with the new SDK. In a few cases we needed to upgrade imported 4rd party libraries like

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-16 Thread simonjpalmer
] wrote: - Original Message - From: simonjpalmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? Sorry to say it, and please don't be offended, but this is classic illogic posing

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-16 Thread Dmitri Girski
Hi Tracy, Maybe I am just unlucky, but I tried last FB3 - it just falls apart on my app - some mysterious compilation errors which could be cleared only by shutdown and clear/rebuild (SDK2.0.1). CVS compare plugin is much slower. It is fancier, but slower. And yes, FB3 feel far more attractive

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-16 Thread Troy Gilbert
Imagine that his company was about to go bust and had no money to spend on anything other than salaries and marketing, and the management team weren't actually being paid but they had a killer product (i.e. any organic startup). How important would an IDE upgrade be in that case? If it

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Uber_Nick
In short: faster and more stable. FB3 is a lot smarter about compiling, so building a project after making a change goes a lot faster. Developers were increasingly frustrated and slowed by the long build times of our project with FB2.01. There were also a variety of small bugs in 2.01, such as

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Hayes
Of Todd Sent: 15 February 2008 17:31 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? For the basic version of $250 bucks, for me it's a no brainer: If you're using WebServices, then I'd upgrade, even if it's only to look at the code that the WSDL Import tool generates

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread madflexcoder
Don't forget about Ctrl-O for code navigation. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mark Lapasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG i didn't know about Ctrl-3This is awesome. Anyways, I like FB3 cause it can handle the two plugins I use everyday Subversive Mylyn Refactoring is nice but I

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Mark Lapasa
OMG i didn't know about Ctrl-3This is awesome. Anyways, I like FB3 cause it can handle the two plugins I use everyday Subversive Mylyn Refactoring is nice but I don't use it as often as I thought I would. -mL Uber_Nick wrote: In short: faster and more stable. FB3 is a lot smarter

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Todd
: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Sent: 15 February 2008 17:31 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? For the basic version of $250 bucks, for me it's a no brainer: If you're using WebServices, then I'd upgrade, even

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Todd
For the basic version of $250 bucks, for me it's a no brainer: If you're using WebServices, then I'd upgrade, even if it's only to look at the code that the WSDL Import tool generates. This code is the best documentation I've found about Flex/Web Services. But you're not using Web Services.

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Tracy Spratt
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simonjpalmer Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 5:02 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? Wait. I can understand your company's reticence. It's normally a pretty empty promise to say that developers

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread simonjpalmer
Wait. I can understand your company's reticence. It's normally a pretty empty promise to say that developers productivity will be greatly improved by spending money on a new version of an IDE. Even if it were, that rarely translates into either lower costs, faster development times or higher

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Hayes
: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? The improvement in developer attitude from the speed an stability alone is probably worth the cost. You do not need to maigrate your apps immediately, but can continue to compile them under the 2x sdk. Best of both worlds. Tracy

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Robert Thompson
that, but if you look at over, say, a year then you should show some decent savings. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tracy Spratt Sent: Fri 15/02/2008 23:12 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3

[flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread simonjpalmer
. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tracy Spratt Sent: Fri 15/02/2008 23:12 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? The improvement in developer attitude from the speed an stability alone is probably worth

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Hayes
. Cheers, Jim. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of simonjpalmer Sent: Sat 16/02/2008 01:18 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? Sorry to say it, and please don't be offended, but this is classic illogic posing

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3?

2008-02-15 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - From: simonjpalmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Why upgrade to FB3? Sorry to say it, and please don't be offended, but this is classic illogic posing as a rational argument