Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Andrews
:29 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? >> It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. > > Is this forum a philosophical debate or a support list for a > technology? Come on, Paul... "bothere

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-03 Thread Troy Gilbert
> It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. Is this forum a philosophical debate or a support list for a technology? Come on, Paul... "bothered" by Scott's presence? Come on, we're writing webapps, not planning federal monetary policy or surgical regimens. There are n

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
It sounds very heroic. I'll keep and eye out for further enlightenment. Paul - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profes

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-02 Thread Scott Barnes
en the actual parties get involved that I get > nervous. > > I think I've made my point, as have you and others. I'm going to let things > be. Just don't offer any discounts here for Silverlight for Flex > developers.. ;-) > > Paul > > > > - O

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-01 Thread Paul Andrews
Flex developers.. ;-) Paul - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? wow :) I only joined Microsoft in 2007 (prio

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-06-01 Thread Scott Barnes
gt; - Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:23 AM > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex > 3 Profesional? > > No. I just think that whe

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
Andrews To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? No. I just think that when it's the head of a rival technology company technology, it's different. Clearly, it&#

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
Paul - Original Message - From: Jeffry Houser To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? One of my friends, a long time ColdFusion Developer has been doing a

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
One of my friends, a long time ColdFusion Developer has been doing a lot of work with Ruby lately. Are you saying it's wrong for him to talk to me about Ruby? I'm not grokking the basis of your argument. Paul Andrews wrote: I guess I'm the agressive one. I've seen other products where f

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Troy Gilbert
> Overreacting maybe, but not silly. Microsoft has many years of playing > nicely ahead of them before they get benefit of the doubt. We don't have to give MS the benefit of the doubt... just Scott. And over the last year or so, I've not seen anything from Scott that would suggest we should give h

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
nager for a competing product, well I'm not so happy. I've seen it done before. Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Josh McDonald
illy... > > > *From:* Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *Sent:* Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:06 AM > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex > 3 Profesional? > > Microsoft could always avoid mistakes by lice

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread bubbamorse
s and viewpoints? Damn, that's down right silly... From: Paul Andrews Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:06 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? Microsoft could always avoid mistakes by licencing Flash

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
osoft forum (shudder), I'd feel equally peeved if Adobe bods were sticking their nose in there) - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and F

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Scott Barnes
e > days.. ;-) > > Have a good weekend. > > Paul > > - Original Message - > From: "Troy Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 >

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Andrews
, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional? >> Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an >> extension of the MS marketing effort.. > > Okay, be nice, it's on-topic... the thread had lead to a qu

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Troy Gilbert
> Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an > extension of the MS marketing effort.. Okay, be nice, it's on-topic... the thread had lead to a question of whether it was possible to develop in Silverlight for free (in the same way its possible to develop in Flex for

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Just for a moment I thought this was the flex coders forum rather than an extension of the MS marketing effort.. - Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Scott Barnes wrote: > FYI: If you wanted to build Silverlight with nothing but Notepad, here's > how: > http://weblogs.asp.net/mschwarz/archive/2007/06/05/how-to-create-silverligh >t-applications-with-notepad.aspx I was hoping for nothing but vi, but there's still no sign of

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-29 Thread Scott Barnes
No offence taken. FYI: If you wanted to build Silverlight with nothing but Notepad, here's how: http://weblogs.asp.net/mschwarz/archive/2007/06/05/how-to-create-silverlight-applications-with-notepad.aspx Also keep in mind should .NET not be your cup of tea, we've also shipped Silverlight to inclu

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Scott Barnes wrote: > Expression Studio is not required to write Silverlight (It's obviously > recommended though). That being said it's kind of like saying Flex Builder > is/isn't required to write Flex? :) No offence to Scott, but I just don't trust Microsoft the same w

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Barnes
Expression Studio is not required to write Silverlight (It's obviously recommended though). That being said it's kind of like saying Flex Builder is/isn't required to write Flex? :) - Scott Barnes Product Manager Microsoft. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Troy Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Troy Gilbert
> I believe it has a 'non compete' clause, but we're not looking to use a single > platform solution regardless of cost. It may, it may not. Doesn't really matter, though. If you made a product that competes with an MS product then realistically you can afford to pay $150 to purchase a commercial

Re: [flexcoders] The different between generial Flex 3 and Flex 3 Profesional?

2008-05-28 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Troy Gilbert wrote: > you're talking about)? The .NET SDK is free to use without VS.NET, and I believe it has a 'non compete' clause, but we're not looking to use a single platform solution regardless of cost. > the runtime is freely available. Hell, MS even provides a fr