RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-23 Thread Theodore E Patrick
; > > This is slightly outdated since the release of > > Flash 8. The memory > > > leaks > > > > the article mentions have been addressed in > > later versions of Flash 7. > > > > > > > > An important distinction between the FlashOrb >

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-23 Thread Robert Thompson
ese are comparing SOAP > and AMF from within the > > > Flash Player. I believe Anatole was comparing > AMF in the Player to > > SOAP in > > > IE. > > > > > > Another part of the discussion was some excited > comments about something > > > call

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-23 Thread Theodore E Patrick
ipt meets XPath > thing. I > > would also expect that the rewriting of the Flash XML parsers will bring > > some dramatic improvements to performance. For details on E4X check > out the > > ECMAScript 4.0 specifications. > > > > Kevin > > > > -Origina

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-23 Thread Robert Thompson
he Flash > XML parsers will bring > some dramatic improvements to performance. For > details on E4X check out the > ECMAScript 4.0 specifications. > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Thompson > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, Octobe

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-23 Thread Anatole Tartakovsky
r performance and flexibility is a good option to have Sincerely, Anatole Tartakovsky - Original Message - From: "Kevin Langdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex &

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Kevin Langdon
ky - Original Message - From: "Kevin Langdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex > - AMF is binary data passed over standard HTTP request and responses. So > you

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Thompson
So does someone have a good introductory sample to using AMF for download? Thanks in advance -- it's learning time! -r --- Clint Modien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ever coded a flex app using web services? I have... > the overhead in the > flash player when grabbing the initial wsdl and > pars

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Anatole Tartakovsky
age - From: "Kevin Langdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex > - AMF is binary data passed over standard HTTP request and responses. So > you should not have any problem

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Thompson
Dave, Do you have some kind of example of the app you are referring to? I'm not being so absurd as to ask if you could share with the group your app; but mainly your experience and perhaps any samples you found or created early on to learn AMF. -r --- Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Thompson
ssewarden.com/archives/2005/06/flash_flex_amfp.html > > > - Original Message - > From: Kevin Langdon > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:46 PM > Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF > solutions that work with flex > > > Assuming yo

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Thompson
Speakning of the HEX and ASCII you mention below, I would assume that AMF is cross-platform, and that a developer such as myself standardizing all projects on it, will also be able to use Flash for Mobile Devices when (currently called Flex Lite; though I realize it's not exactly like the current v

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Thompson
Kevin,   >>Flash uses DOM to parse XML, due to this you >>will see that the client side parsing time >>grows exponentially [*** OUCH THAT SUCKS AND >>I DON'T LIKE IT ] with the size of your data.    Well this is news to me and if so, count me in please.  If you have a mailing list please add me

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread JesterXL
AMFPHP works too. http://www.jessewarden.com/archives/2005/06/flash_flex_amfp.html     - Original Message - From: Kevin Langdon To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Kevin Langdon
- AMF is binary data passed over standard HTTP request and responses. So you should not have any problem with packet filtering. - You can turn on GZIP compression with remoting just as you cand with SOAP. That means it be even smaller. Remoting cuts out all the extra metadata so its always go

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Clint Modien
ever coded a flex app using web services?  I have... the overhead in the flash player when grabbing the initial wsdl and parsing it is huge...   as for gzipping it... you might want to read this... http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mchotin/archives/2004/11/enabling_gzip_c.cfm   amf is http tunneled

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Abdul Qabiz
Hi, > We actually used to tunnel the IIOP through HTTP a lot to avoid this. AMF packets also go as HTP POST. Packets are in binary format. http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flashremoting/mx/Using_Flash_Remoting_MX/ intro2.htm#1174485 >> * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice > Not true with

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Clint Modien
performance On 10/21/05, Dave Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do want to know why you're prefering AMF over HTTP or WebService.Just curious on the motivation there. --Dave WolfCynergy Systems, Inc.Macromedia Flex Alliance Partnerhttp://www.cynergysystems.comEmail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]Office: 86

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Matt Chotin
The presentation that I gave at MAX (and now linked from my blog http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mchotin) has a discussion of choices for accessing data.    I also have a discussion in there (sometime much earlier) about the GZIP compression experiments that some of our QA did.   The s

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Robert Thompson
Seems to me serialization is a huge benefit, and in re: to performance, certainly important (XML has this problem to in large datasets and/or requires consideration in design). This is interesting to me (btw, do you have any URLs to information on it)but one concern as always is adoptation of

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Abdul Qabiz
Hi, AMF has lots good things, I know some of these: * Binary transport * 50% percent faster then SOAP or Webservice * Automatic object serialization/deserialization -abdul -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf Sent: Frid

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Clint Modien
Got an example anywhere?  On 10/21/05, Kevin Langdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Assuming you have a java backend, openAMF is your best bet.  It will require some tweeking to work with Flex RemoteObject tags but should work out of the box with standard mx.remoting.* classes.     From: flexcod

RE: [flexcoders] Re: Open source AMF solutions that work with flex

2005-10-21 Thread Kevin Langdon
Assuming you have a java backend, openAMF is your best bet.  It will require some tweeking to work with Flex RemoteObject tags but should work out of the box with standard mx.remoting.* classes.     From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint ModienSent