Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-03 Thread Mike Valentine
: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design What is so wrong with an intermediate amplifier? I have been using this approach for over 25 years. If properly designed it should produce a very nice and clean signal. 73 Maarten N1DZ

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-03 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Wed 02 Jul 2008 06:53:18 PM PDT: Jim, As an owner of four Lunar-Link tube amps driven by DEMI high-power transverters, I have to agree with Mike. 50 watts of available drive power from the transverter is considerably more convenient than adding a brick amp

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread David Hilton-Jones
I suggest that there are two important issues to consider: 1) Power output. I have a strong preference for 50-60 watts - that allows driving of a 13db triode to 1kw. Intermediate amplifiers are undesirable. 2) Stability - for digital modes standard crystal oscillators are not stable enough. I

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Ken Simmons
Phone: 512-535-4713 - Original Message - From: David Hilton-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design I suggest that there are two important issues

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:23 PM, David Hilton-Jones wrote: I suggest that there are two important issues to consider: 1) Power output. I have a strong preference for 50-60 watts - that allows driving of a 13db triode to 1kw. Intermediate amplifiers are undesirable. You also want lower

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Wed 02 Jul 2008 12:40:10 PM PDT: On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:23 PM, David Hilton-Jones wrote: I suggest that there are two important issues to consider: 1) Power output. I have a strong preference for 50-60 watts - that allows driving of a 13db triode

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Jim Lux wrote: Quoting Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Wed 02 Jul 2008 12:40:10 PM PDT: On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:23 PM, David Hilton-Jones wrote: I suggest that there are two important issues to consider: 1) Power output. I have a strong preference for 50-60

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Mike Valentine
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design [SNIP} I would think that a modern UHF amp building block wouldn't use a +47dBm (50W) drive... even a watt seems like a lot. In the microwave area, a HPA gain of 40 or 50 dB (e.g. 0dBm in for 100W out) isn't unusual

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread kb5my
transverters, it was a sigh of relief for me to be able to eliminate those pesky intermediate brick amps. I'm sure others have had similar experiences. 73, Dan KB5MY/6 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design [SNIP} I would think that a modern UHF amp building block

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread n1dz
KB5MY/6 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design [SNIP} I would think that a modern UHF amp building block wouldn't use a +47dBm (50W) drive... even a watt seems like a lot. In the microwave area, a HPA gain of 40 or 50 dB (e.g. 0dBm in for 100W out) isn't

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-02 Thread Bob McGwier
: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:40 PM To: David Hilton-Jones Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:23 PM, David Hilton-Jones wrote: I suggest that there are two important issues to consider: 1) Power output. I have

[Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-01 Thread John
I have received quite a few emails [direct and via the reflector] regarding the subject above. Thank you for your input and recommendations. Let me iterate my earlier post for those not familiar with this tread. The transverter design is a work in progress. And, even though our original intent

Re: [Flexradio] 144 and 432 - Low vs High Power Design

2008-07-01 Thread kb5my
Thanks for the info, John. To add my $0.02 - I use the high-power versions of the DEMI 144, 222, 432 XVTRs to drive a matching set of Lunar-Link amps, which have about the lowest drive requirements of the 2-hole GG triode amps. My L-L's are set up for about 2850V B+, key-down, and require approx