Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with latest CVS code?

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski writes: > > > > > John, > > > > Did you do a "cvs update -d" in the base directory? > > > Not exactly, but I did a download of the latest snapshot from rockfish and > untarred the file to /usr/local/FlightGear There were some changes today, so you may want to grab the next snap

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with latest CVS code?

2002-10-01 Thread John Wojnaroski
> John, > > Did you do a "cvs update -d" in the base directory? > Not exactly, but I did a download of the latest snapshot from rockfish and untarred the file to /usr/local/FlightGear John W. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> For what it's worth, most of the SimGear API is documented with > doxygen. > > Curt. I knew that - I took a look the other day and decided that Doxygen would be satisfactory. :-) Just downloaded it. I'll be trying it out. Jon smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
Jon Berndt writes: > > Jon S Berndt writes: > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience with moving from Doc++ to > > > Doxygen? I'm thinking of making the move. Doxygen seems to > > > be what I had hoped Doc++ would become, but seems to have > > > stalled. It looks like many of the identifiers a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt writes: > > Jon S Berndt writes: > > > > > > Does anyone have any experience with moving from Doc++ to > > > Doxygen? I'm thinking of making the move. Doxygen seems to > > > be what I had hoped Doc++ would become, but seems to have > > > stalled. It looks like many of the identifiers ar

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> Jon S Berndt writes: > > > > Does anyone have any experience with moving from Doc++ to > > Doxygen? I'm thinking of making the move. Doxygen seems to > > be what I had hoped Doc++ would become, but seems to have > > stalled. It looks like many of the identifiers are the > > Jon > > Doxygen start

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What Do Navaids Look Like?

2002-10-01 Thread JD Fenech
The physics geek in me says: That's tricky stuff. (Antennas are cool) David Megginson wrote: > Here's a good page for when we add navaid transmitters to the scenery > (fairly soon): > > http://www.xuser.com/~daled/navaids/ > > All the best, > > David > > -- > David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Flightgear-devel] ASP PHOTO GALLERY

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
FYI http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/AERO/ASPphoto/aspphoto.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Nvidia compiler under "open source"

2002-10-01 Thread SERGIO ROTH
Hi, I'm not sure if it's new or not but I think Nvidia is getting more and more respect among Open Source comunity. They are opening the Nvidia compiler. The source code is available at: developer.nvidia.com or www.cgshaders.org -- Sergio Roth Linux user#226380 SuSE 8.0 ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Norman Vine writes: > > > It used to be I could use the CVS browser and see > > how things were before the 'grand rewrite' but the historical CVS seems > > to have disappeared so now we are deprived of that 'work around' also > > We might still be able to talk Curt i

re: [Flightgear-devel] ASP PHOTO GALLERY

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > FYI > > http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/AERO/ASPphoto/aspphoto.html Very nice -- we can use these to add more taxiways and aprons. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with latest CVS code?

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John, Did you do a "cvs update -d" in the base directory? Curt. John Wojnaroski writes: > Well, I was going to send Curtis the latest and greatest 3D cloud code. > > Did a fresh checkout and build of SimGear and FlightGear plus the base > package before applying the changes and running a few

[Flightgear-devel] What Do Navaids Look Like?

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Here's a good page for when we add navaid transmitters to the scenery (fairly soon): http://www.xuser.com/~daled/navaids/ All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EM

[Flightgear-devel] Problem with latest CVS code?

2002-10-01 Thread John Wojnaroski
Well, I was going to send Curtis the latest and greatest 3D cloud code. Did a fresh checkout and build of SimGear and FlightGear plus the base package before applying the changes and running a few tests, but the program is aborting when reading the command options line in "test" which is: #!/bin/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > It used to be I could use the CVS browser and see > how things were before the 'grand rewrite' but the historical CVS seems > to have disappeared so now we are deprived of that 'work around' also We might still be able to talk Curt into restoring the full archive. All t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
Jon S Berndt writes: > > Does anyone have any experience with moving from Doc++ to > Doxygen? I'm thinking of making the move. Doxygen seems to > be what I had hoped Doc++ would become, but seems to have > stalled. It looks like many of the identifiers are the Jon Doxygen started life as Doc++ s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:18, David Megginson wrote: > Andy Ross writes: > > > If X refers to a position in meters, then X dot is the velocity in > > m/s, and X dot dot is the acceration in m/s^2, etc... This is > > presuming that the second is the canonical time unit (which it is). > > So, w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 12:50, Andy Ross wrote: > David Megginson wrote: > > In flight.hxx, some of the *dot* values are referred to as 'rates', > > and some are referred to as 'accelerations' (i.e. rate of change in > > rate of change). So, here are some specific questions: > > Strictly, the dot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 10:06, Andy Ross wrote: > Norman Vine wrote: > > FWIW - I really don't understand why the FDM folks haven't been using > > this as I wrote it several years ago so that one could get an > > elevation per wheel I have to say, here, that this topic has always stirred up debate

[Flightgear-devel] Documentation

2002-10-01 Thread Jon S Berndt
Does anyone have any experience with moving from Doc++ to Doxygen? I'm thinking of making the move. Doxygen seems to be what I had hoped Doc++ would become, but seems to have stalled. It looks like many of the identifiers are the same. Jon ___ Flig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > Norman Vine writes: > > > What happened to all of the documentation that I provided for MY > > MATRIX routines that the 3-D Model code uses > > > fgfs-matrix-howto.html > > or something similar. Inline comments have some value when they can > be extracted with a Ja

[Flightgear-devel] Back Soon...

2002-10-01 Thread Christopher S Horler
Just to let everyone know, I haven't given up on the Spitfire model. I've been looking for new accomodation, now that's found I anticipate I'll be without internet for a 2 week period (or less). It looks like I can get ADSL this time, fingers crossed. Later, Chris. _

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > Norman Vine writes: > > > What happened to all of the documentation that I provided for MY > > MATRIX routines that the 3-D Model code uses > > A while ago I deleted some dead, commented-out code but have tried to > avoid usage comments (i.e. "this function does X us

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Well hmmm... I don't think any harm was meant by David's comment. If anything he pointed out the lack of his own doc work. In any case it did take many hours to figure out how to fix that viewer problem. The only reason I did find it was because all the reported viewer bugs traced back to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: > If X refers to a position in meters, then X dot is the velocity in > m/s, and X dot dot is the acceration in m/s^2, etc... This is > presuming that the second is the canonical time unit (which it is). So, would these property names be acceptable? /orientation/rates/ang

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > What happened to all of the documentation that I provided for MY > MATRIX routines that the 3-D Model code uses A while ago I deleted some dead, commented-out code but have tried to avoid usage comments (i.e. "this function does X using parameters Y and Z and returns A")

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
Andy Ross writes: > > For reference, YASim does all of its internal mechanics in a > geocentric cartesian coordinate system. It never usees anglular > measures except at the interface level. In these coordinates, the > aircraft state is pleasingly simple: > > position: 3 doubles > orientatio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: > In flight.hxx, some of the *dot* values are referred to as 'rates', > and some are referred to as 'accelerations' (i.e. rate of change in > rate of change). So, here are some specific questions: Strictly, the dot notataion refers to time derivative. So, if you have a va

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > > I'm hitting a wall with my limited knowledge of calculus. David You REALLY NEED to read this book !! - Original Message - From: "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: [Flightgear-devel] 13.4

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > > Norm, it depends a lot on documentation. There is far more code in > SimGear and FlightGear than most people know about or understand. > While I don't always keep it up to date, my 3-D model code and > property code gets used mainly because I provided documentation to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Elad Yarkoni
Once upon a time, you were sitting and writing: > > I think "dot" means 'rate of change in' or 'derivative'. latitude-dot > > would be the rate of change in latitude. I.e. latitude is a position, > > latitude-dot is a velocity. If you had velocity-down (earth centered > > coordinates) then vel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > I really am beginning to wonder if anyone actually tries using > the code we already have in place for doing these things !!! Norm, it depends a lot on documentation. There is far more code in SimGear and FlightGear than most people know about or understand. While I don'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > This is true, but it's handlable. The way the Gnome i18n stuff works, > the program is guaranteed to have american English text for > everything. These strings are often hardcoded, and are used as the > hash keys for translation lookups. So, in the worst case situation, a >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson: > Well the difference is if you have one menu.xml for each languange, > then when someone adds a new option to the default menu.xml and > forgets to add it to all the other languange's menu.xml files you have > a problem and you are headed towards a big mess. This is true, but it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: > I don't get the point; > > 1. parts of the second xml file will *overwrite* previously read sections. > > 2. new parts added in the _first_ xml file will show up in English. > > This is what you are aiming for ins't it? Well, ok sure, it just seems less optimal and involv

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Erik Hofman writes: >>Curtis L. Olson wrote: >> >>>If we have one menu.xml file and one options.xml file, then one >>>".xml" file per language, then a person adding a menu >>>option or adding a command line option only needs to add it to the one >>>main xml file, and to th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
Andy Ross > Norman Vine wrote: > > FWIW - I really don't understand why the FDM folks haven't been using > > this as I wrote it several years ago so that one could get an > > elevation per wheel > > Landing gear struts compress, so there isn't a single point of > intersection. Worse, they don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Erik, > > > > THe only thing I'm concerned about is if we have 10 different > > menu..xml files and then we want to do some work on the > > GUI, the person doing this needs to make the change in 10 different > > places, and in 9 languages they are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread James A. Treacy
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:18:36AM -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > David Megginson writes: > > I'm hitting a wall with my limited knowledge of calculus. > > Specifically, I'm looking at the following: > > > > - latitude-dot > > - longitude-dot > > - radius-dot > > - v-dot-local > > - v-dot-body >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Erik, > > THe only thing I'm concerned about is if we have 10 different > menu..xml files and then we want to do some work on the > GUI, the person doing this needs to make the change in 10 different > places, and in 9 languages they are unfamiliar with. > > If we have o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/Flight/LaRCsim/LaRCsim-vars/LaRCsim-vars.html > > (This is a latex conversion of the original excel spread sheet which I > don't think I have anymore.) This one should be in the CVS of the Docs: ./CVS/fgfs/docs/FDM/LaRCsim/LaRCsim_generics

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Michael Basler writes: > >From a user's perspective, a clever solution might be having a menu entry > "Language" which defaults to English, but can be changed to French, > German... The selection would then select the proper xml files for diplaying > menu, messages etc. There are several prog

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Andy Ross
Norman Vine wrote: > FWIW - I really don't understand why the FDM folks haven't been using > this as I wrote it several years ago so that one could get an > elevation per wheel Landing gear struts compress, so there isn't a single point of intersection. Worse, they don't always point down. Even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER writes: > Curtis L. Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > The strings-fr.xml file would look something like (according > > to babelfish): > > > > Dossier > > Economiser le vol > > Vol de charge > > Remise > > babelfish is very funny ;-) "Economiser le vol

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Michael Basler
Hi, >From a user's perspective, a clever solution might be having a menu entry "Language" which defaults to English, but can be changed to French, German... The selection would then select the proper xml files for diplaying menu, messages etc. There are several programs having this, e.g. Ghostvie

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Curtis L. Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > The strings-fr.xml file would look something like (according > to babelfish): > > Dossier > Economiser le vol > Vol de charge > Remise babelfish is very funny ;-) Hopefully, someone already offered to help translating. Fichier Sauver l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > I'm hitting a wall with my limited knowledge of calculus. > Specifically, I'm looking at the following: > > - latitude-dot > - longitude-dot > - radius-dot > - v-dot-local > - v-dot-body > - alpha-dot > - beta-dot > - phi-dot > - theta-dot > - psi-dot I think "dot" mean

[Flightgear-devel] Accelerations and Rates

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
I'm hitting a wall with my limited knowledge of calculus. Specifically, I'm looking at the following: - latitude-dot - longitude-dot - radius-dot - v-dot-local - v-dot-body - alpha-dot - beta-dot - phi-dot - theta-dot - psi-dot In flight.hxx, some of the *dot* values are referred to as 'rates',

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Richard Bytheway writes: > Sounds sensible. > > Could the appropriate text..xml file be determined > automatically in a repeatable, portable way at runtime (with > optional override of course)? > Perhaps if were the country code, or at least derived > from it? > > Would this, or a similar sc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > > Having given a very tiny bit of thought to 'internationalizing' > > flightgear I thought perhaps a first start would be to provide > > translated versions of menu.xml and options.xml > > I'm looking forward to the Minnesotan translation.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik, THe only thing I'm concerned about is if we have 10 different menu..xml files and then we want to do some work on the GUI, the person doing this needs to make the change in 10 different places, and in 9 languages they are unfamiliar with. If we have one menu.xml file and one options.xml fi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Having given a very tiny bit of thought to 'internationalizing' > flightgear I thought perhaps a first start would be to provide > translated versions of menu.xml and options.xml I'm looking forward to the Minnesotan translation. Will it sound like Prairie Home Compa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Hi Curtis, hi to all, When you'll be OK on the way to translate FlightGear, I could do the french translation. I'm OK for the way below, but I couldn't have a good advice, I'm not dev ;-) Bye, Fabien Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Having given a very tiny bit of thought to 'internationalizing' > fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help: Current Ground Elevation

2002-10-01 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: > > Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > If it isn't then you just need to load it before making your query to the > > elevation routine and then it should just work using a similar method to > > what Jim uses for Tower placement > > > > Actually it is used to get the gro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Having given a very tiny bit of thought to 'internationalizing' > flightgear I thought perhaps a first start would be to provide > translated versions of menu.xml and options.xml > > It would be nice to do this in a sensible organzied way so that when > we add a menu opti

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Internationalizing FlightGear.

2002-10-01 Thread Richard Bytheway
Sounds sensible. Could the appropriate text..xml file be determined automatically in a repeatable, portable way at runtime (with optional override of course)? Perhaps if were the country code, or at least derived from it? Would this, or a similar scheme, also be suitable to localise the keybo