[Flightgear-devel] fault modeling

2002-12-14 Thread paul mccann
yeah this is great idea especially for instrument training, something like the attitude indicator, plus single engine flight in the twins is always interesting. Paul ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X 0.9.1 build available

2002-12-14 Thread Jonathan Polley
I just got the MacOS X 10.1 version of FlightGear build and submitted to Darrell. The compiler used by 10.1 REALLY doesn't like the GL* type warnings that are present in the 3D cloud subsystem. It always aborted the build, even though they were warnings instead of errors. Any idea as to how l

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Fault modeling

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Berndt
What kind of failts would you model. In the Big Sims (as you have probably seen) you may have the ability to set particular variables to a particular value, or delta-value, at a scripted time, or several at once, along with flags, etc. How do you plan on implementing fault values? A malfunction fla

[Flightgear-devel] Fault modeling

2002-12-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I'm looking at doing some fault modeling ... things like failing various instruments, CDI, GS, to/from flag failing, and quite a few other things with avionics, electrical, fuel, flaps, engines, etc. What makes the most sense to me is to create a section for faults in the property tree /sim/faults

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X 0.9.1 build available

2002-12-14 Thread James Turner
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, at 08:20 pm, darrell.l.walisser.1 wrote: I would like to get joystick support included soon (this would involve working on PLIB). Is anyone else already working on this? I am about to, by porting Max Horn's work in SDL to plib. I've got as far as reading over

[Flightgear-devel] Segfault with Friday evening CVS update

2002-12-14 Thread Dave Perry
I updated SimGear, FlightGear, and fgfsbase Friday the 13th in the evening. I also updated the nvidia driver to 1.0-4191 using source RPMS. After compiling the fgfs stuf and installing the new nvidia drivers, I get a segfault trying to load the first tiles. I went back to a version of Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] BA-609, V-22 derivative aircraft

2002-12-14 Thread C. Hotchkiss
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: ... Oh, you get heavily increased torque from the ailerons for manouverability and you get much more lift from large wings at low speed - especially because on the current design at least 90 % of the wing area suffers from the down-wind generated by th

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't really think that the CG (or anything like it) should have > anything to do with a common reference point. I think it should be > something you can readily see. The nose/prop hub tip is about as > unambiguous as it gets. Due to the nature of defining

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Berndt
> Yes, I knew this would sound a little complicated with swept,delta,body wing > aircraft. But making it the nose really just puts the decision on to the 3D > Modeler where to some degree the flight model designer could have a better > idea. Isn't there some way of deriving an average or nominal

[Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X 0.9.1 build available

2002-12-14 Thread darrell.l.walisser.1
I've posted a build that works on 10.2 (not binary-compatible with 10.1). I didn't have the problem with ATCVoice like Jonathan did because I cvs up'd and got the new version that fixed the problem (the original code had endian issues which caused a crash when loading the wav file). http://homepag

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It's neither impractical nor complex. FWIW, there really is a standard > already out there, and we use it. That is, the structural frame, as I have > outlined before. The only problem I see is that the FDM and the 3D model > rendering code need to have a stat

[Flightgear-devel] comments

2002-12-14 Thread paul mccann
John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:52:27 -0500 Previous message: [Flightgear-devel] comments Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On Saturday 14 December 2002 1:06 pm, paul mccann wrote: > [Flightgear-devel] patch and screenshot > > John Check [EMAIL PRO

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Berndt
> Really we just need the FDMs to agree on something. Or maybe > not...maybe the > idea of sharing 3DModel configs between FDMs (c310-jsbsim, > c310-yasim pointing > to the same model.xml) is impratical or too complex? Certainly if one FDM > models gear compression and the other doesn't, that is

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Tony wrote: > > > Are we sure we want to put the 3D model origin to cg offsets in the FDM > > config file. IIRC, having multiple 3D models for any one aero model is > > pretty standard fare in the MSFS world. > > The only thing we'd do different in JSBSim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > IMHO it'd make the most sense to put the offset (from the nose or > > tail) to the > > 3D model origin location into the FDM's aircraft config xml file. This > > location should be on the leading edge of the wings and z axis > > centered on the > > nose a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Berndt
Tony wrote: > Are we sure we want to put the 3D model origin to cg offsets in the FDM > config file. IIRC, having multiple 3D models for any one aero model is > pretty standard fare in the MSFS world. The only thing we'd do different in JSBSim is to say where the nose/prop tip is. This would giv

Re: [Flightgear-devel] comments

2002-12-14 Thread John Check
On Saturday 14 December 2002 1:06 pm, paul mccann wrote: > [Flightgear-devel] patch and screenshot > > John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:05:52 -0500 > > Previous message: [Flightgear-devel] patch and screenshot > Next message: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Re: preferences.xml change > Me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] whoops

2002-12-14 Thread John Check
On Saturday 14 December 2002 12:17 pm, paul mccann wrote: > Umm the patch for the hsi and rmi was slightly broken. The > c310-ifr-set.xml was not right, so I changed that and everything is working > again. > > patch is here > > http://members.verizon.net/~vze3b42n/patch9.1.tar.gz > Cool thanks. I

[Flightgear-devel] comments

2002-12-14 Thread paul mccann
[Flightgear-devel] patch and screenshot John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:05:52 -0500 Previous message: [Flightgear-devel] patch and screenshot Next message: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Re: preferences.xml change Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] On T

[Flightgear-devel] Request for updates on Developer Locations and FAQ

2002-12-14 Thread Cameron Moore
Man, I've been busy with real life lately[1][2], so I need you guys to tell me what I need to know in order to update the FAQ[3] and Developer Locations page[4]. If you have any questions you are tired of answering, send me the question and answer, and I'll work it into the FAQ. Some things have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Norman Vine
Jim Wilson writes: > Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > In your example you may not see the error but . > > What I meant was that offseting to the varible center of gravity wouldn't be > visible either outside or inside the aircraft. The FDM already provides the > attitude effects,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] BA-609, V-22 derivative aircraft

2002-12-14 Thread Martin Spott
> Martin Spott wrote: >> This does not have to be as difficult as it is with the V-22. The Osprey is >> designed for being stuffed into _very_ small space below a ship's deck. >> If they had more space then it would have been possible to improve security >> simply by increasing the wing span, >>

[Flightgear-devel] whoops

2002-12-14 Thread paul mccann
Umm the patch for the hsi and rmi was slightly broken. The c310-ifr-set.xml was not right, so I changed that and everything is working again. patch is here http://members.verizon.net/~vze3b42n/patch9.1.tar.gz updated screenshot http://members.verizon.net/~vze3b42n/fgfs-screen-001.jpeg Paul

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 07:26, Jon Berndt wrote: > > IMHO it'd make the most sense to put the offset (from the nose or > > tail) to the > > 3D model origin location into the FDM's aircraft config xml file. This > > location should be on the leading edge of the wings and z axis > > centered on the >

RE: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jon Berndt
> IMHO it'd make the most sense to put the offset (from the nose or > tail) to the > 3D model origin location into the FDM's aircraft config xml file. This > location should be on the leading edge of the wings and z axis > centered on the > nose as described above. The 3D modeler's could refer t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > In your example you may not see the error but . What I meant was that offseting to the varible center of gravity wouldn't be visible either outside or inside the aircraft. The FDM already provides the attitude effects, it is the change in axes that wou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ~30 new GPL'd models that work w/ FlightGear

2002-12-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Arnt Karlsen wrote: Helicopters --- Bell AH-1S SuperCobra Kaman K1200 K-max Sikorsky UH-60 BlackHawk ..use/develop the fdm from http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ ? I *think* we get the message by now ... ;-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mai

Re: [Flightgear-devel] c310 origin

2002-12-14 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: OK, finally I understand the problem. What we need to do, then, is apply the euler angles to the CG rather than the origin when rotating the 3D model. We need only two steps: 1. have the FDMs report the current CG relative to the origin (if they don't already); and 2