Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Norman Vine wrote: The thing to remember is that PostGIS is just a normal PostGRES extension module so you still have the power of a general purpose relational DB to use. Correct, but the solution by referring from PostGIS shapes to BLOBs that contain the raster data is far not as smart as

RE: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Norman Vine
Norman Vine wrote: Martin Spott writes: Norman Vine wrote: I would suggest adding them to a PostGIS database which when appropriately indexed has *quick* respones. http://postgis.refractions.net Is there a converter which generates SQL-scripts for PostGIS similar to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Norman Vine wrote: Actually it looks as if ogr2ogr can now go directly from tiger to pgsql Thanks for the hint - I'll start building GDAL right now, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

RE: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Norman Vine
Martin Spott writes: Norman Vine wrote: The thing to remember is that PostGIS is just a normal PostGRES extension module so you still have the power of a general purpose relational DB to use. Correct, but the solution by referring from PostGIS shapes to BLOBs that contain the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 Thanks,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] When can we have roads like this

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Norman Vine wrote: (2) Reprojection of Raster Data is usually *much* more expensive then Vector data and isn't handled by any GIS enabled DB that I am currently aware of. Hmmm, how would any DB-based map-server do the job ? Simply by referring to BLOBs in the DB as you already

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 16 November 2004 18:06: Melchior FRANZ wrote: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 It should work just with the ai... /ai stuff in my earlier post. Yes. Changed that now. Mathias has put all the necessary stuff here:

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote Mathias has put all the necessary stuff here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/carrier/ The code that he sent me works well, but I haven't tried it from that location yet. I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Giles Robertson
This is probably unrelated, but with the 0.9.6 win32 binaries, if you start up with a large FOV (?90), then until you reset, 3d-cockpits are unusable. Giles Robertson -Original Message- From: Martin Spott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 November 2004 09:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nasal?

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On November 16, 2004 09:56 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: Sure: http://plausible.org/nasal/flightgear.html This should probably move to the FlightGear site, I suppose. Ahhh, thanks for the url ... it's been too long since the last time I looked at nasal. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from 2D panel - 3D panel - 2D panel (was: Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI)

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Giles Robertson wrote: This is probably unrelated, but with the 0.9.6 win32 binaries, if you start up with a large FOV (?90), then until you reset, 3d-cockpits are unusable. I can confirm something that seems related: if I switch from 2D panel mode to 3D panel mode and use the mouse to change the

[Flightgear-devel] local build problems with latest CVS

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Building yesterday's CVS version, I get the following errors (clean checkout): -8---8---8---8---8---8---8---8---8---8---8---8-- ../../src/Main/libMain.a(fg_commands.o)(.bss+0x0):/usr/local/include/simgear/props/props.hxx:336: multiple definition of `color_nodes'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] local build problems with latest CVS

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Boris Koenig wrote: Building yesterday's CVS version, I get the following errors (clean checkout): [...] Please disregard this for the moment, it seems to be building now - obviously I had to explicitly specify the other SimGear version (keeping different versions of FG, SimGear etc. around).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from 2D panel - 3D panel -2Dpanel (was: Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI)

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Giles Robertson wrote: I think that's a result of the standard problem that if you move the view with the mouse in 2d panel mode, you can't see the panel, and it can be very difficult to get back to the original location; resetting resets the viewpoints back to normal, and

[Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-17 Thread David Luff
I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.3 up at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. This is purely a bug-fix release - there is another version in the works with some more features. Changes from 0.2.2 to 0.2.3 are: * Heliports can now be loaded and saved in both X-Plane and FlightGear format. *

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.3 up at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. IRIX binary is here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.3-IRIX.bz2 I can confirm the stopway length bug to be fixed, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.3 released

2004-11-17 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: David Luff wrote: I've put TaxiDraw-0.2.3 up at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/taxidraw.html. IRIX binary is here: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.3-IRIX.bz2 Thanks! Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 10:29, Martin Spott wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Dienstag 16 November 2004 18:25, Martin Spott wrote: into CVS is the addition of the Nimitz - no change to any FDM yet. Did I miss a mail ? True. There are many things to do. I would like to have the basic infrastructure in flightgears cvs. This way I can add the code safely to JSBSim's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 11:29, Melchior FRANZ wrote: I applied all the stuff and it worked very well. My first carrier landing with the FA-18A succeeded already. The gear code is great! It's fun to taxi over slopes and actually see the aircraft follow them, rather than strangely sliding

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mathias Fröhlich -- Wednesday 17 November 2004 21:42: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 11:29, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * I observed one segfault that I hadn't seen before. The bt, however, didn't look like it had anything to do with the new code. I haven't saved the core file but will do so if I

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear build break: Mac OS X

2004-11-17 Thread ima . sudonim
With CVS src from 2100 GMT Wednesday, 17 XI 2004, network/ATC-inputs.cxx requires #ifdef __APPLE__ #include fcntl.h #endif before: #include ATC-Inputs.hxx to build flightgear successfully. I'd appreciate it if someone with developer authority could make this small change. Otherwise constants

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently different rules apply when you put the carrier into the scenery:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AInimitz_demo.xml, NONE, 1.1

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 21:52, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Sure. Actually, I do know where it happened. I checked the backtrace, and wasn't thrilled: It was at program exit when freeing property nodes. That's why I didn't really attribute it to the new changes, although I hadn't seen that

[Flightgear-devel] Nasal

2004-11-17 Thread Vance Souders
I'm working on a new cockpit for the T6; the T6's altimeter displays barometric pressure in both inches HG and MB. I want to add a small amount of script that converts from the HG reading in the property tree to MB for the gauge (I need this for the texture translation). After looking at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Carrier_01.jpg [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal

2004-11-17 Thread Boris Koenig
Vance Souders wrote: I'm working on a new cockpit for the T6; the T6's altimeter displays barometric pressure in both inches HG and MB. I want to add a small amount of script that converts from the HG reading in the property tree to MB for the gauge (I need this for the texture translation).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal

2004-11-17 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thursday 18 November 2004 00:06, Vance Souders wrote: I'm working on a new cockpit for the T6; the T6's altimeter displays barometric pressure in both inches HG and MB. I want to add a small amount of script that converts from the HG reading in the property tree to MB for the gauge (I need

[Flightgear-devel] Stall warning

2004-11-17 Thread Matthew Law
I just tried this on a freshly updated CVS build: Take off in the 172 (I used the c172r-3d) and climb to say, 2500'. Trim the aircraft and with the wings level, pull the power back to idle. Hold the nose up to allow the speed to decay and enter the stall. The stall warner goes off as expected

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Stall warning

2004-11-17 Thread David Megginson
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 00:05:33 +, Matthew Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now drop the nose a little and let the air speed build to above Vs still with idle power. I repeatably get the stall warner to well over 70kt indicated. Are other people seeing this? Is it normal? (I've never just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:15:43 +0100, Mathias wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to