Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Martin Spott
Just my two cent "Oliver C." wrote: > 2. The Readably of a web based forum is better. I'd find it annoying that you have to start a graphical desktop plus a graphical web browser just in order to read a few lines of _text_ ! The usability of web forums in a text browser like 'lynx' is typic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: "Curtis L. Olson" > > Paul Kahler wrote: > > >This may be too late now unless the address changes. Get the email > >address off the web pages. Just where do you think the spammers are > >getting the address from? My ISP has some form of spam blocking, but I > >receive about 1 spam every m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On September 14, 2005 01:03 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? I always wanted to ask the same question, but I have a believe that FlightGear uses a mailing list for a reason, so I never ask. Anwa

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Alex Perry
From: "Curtis L. Olson" > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? I wouldn't subscribe to the forum; but if there was a daily digest (like the list currently has) then I might consider receiving that. > - I'm getting really sick o

[Flightgear-devel] Digitrak and three axis gyro

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Knoblock
The Digitrak is described as employing "gyroscopic rate sensors are installed so as to sense motion about each of the major axes (roll, yaw and pitch)." I assume they mean there is a spinning gryo around which three sensors are arranged, to sense motion in each axis, pitch, roll and yaw. The senso

[Flightgear-devel] Online forums please no.

2005-09-14 Thread GWMobile
Please stick to email lists. They can be managed easily with those of us on wireless email phones. Forums are much harder. So many people are getting email by phone devices these days so you will lose a lot of access to many first adopters of the technology. Typed from my mobile phone. Please

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: "Curtis L. Olson" > (this is a general response to already quoted a few times thread :-)) Hi Curt, PhpBB is one I've heard a lot about and have probably used, but not run. I think it runs on Postgres and others. The Ideal Forum software: It seems to me that the ideal forum software

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Paul Kahler wrote: This may be too late now unless the address changes. Get the email address off the web pages. Just where do you think the spammers are getting the address from? My ISP has some form of spam blocking, but I receive about 1 spam every month or two. I think the reason for this is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Paul Kahler
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 17:09 -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > The problem is with all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail. These addresses can't be avoided and are a > huge spam attracter for the two flightgear co-list admins. But just to > be clear, I'm not trying to solve a spa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Dave Martin
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? I quite like the idea of forums at least for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Andy Ross
Oliver C. wrote: > 2. The Readably of a web based forum is better. This is a joke, right? It must be all those giant, blinking, hot pink 600x200 signature GIFs that help you tell where the text content is. :) Heh, to each his own. Although I will point out that most of your complaints have more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Oliver C.
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? This is a great idea! I like forums and prefer th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Richard Harrison
I much prefer mailing lists. They are so accesible and flexibile. The important content arrives (and I appreciate the effort of admins to maintain this). I actually think that mailing lists work really well, and it sounds like the problem is more down to the spam. Could we setup an autoresponde

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman wrote: I'm for dumping every mail not from a list member instead. We already do that. The problem is with all the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail. These addresses can't be avoided and are a huge spam attracter for the two flightgear co-list admins. But just to b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Andy Ross wrote: A J MacLeod wrote: Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the disadvantages. Ditto. Reading threaded mail with Thunderbird vs. with PHPbb or the like isn't even a fair comparison

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Vivian Meazza wrote: > AJ MacLeod wrote > > >>Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the >>advantages >>of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the >>disadvantages. >> >>For one thing, it's much easier to keep up with the mailing lists, as I >>monitor my e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 14 Sep 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for > discussion/comment. > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and > converting over to online/web-based forums? > > - People would only have to subscribe once and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Andy Ross wrote: > A J MacLeod wrote: > > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and > > > converting over to online/web-based forums? > > > > Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the > > advantages of web-based forums, but I'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? I think you'll lose an *awful* lot of input. I'm really no fan of forums. Mail gets deli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Sylvain Mazet
Hi, I am also just playing with FG, lurking on the lists searching for info. I prefer mailing lists, but it would be really nice if the archives at flightgear were searchable. Sylvain. On 9/14/05, Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Sylvain Mazet wrote: Hi, I am also just playing with FG, lurking on the lists searching for info. I prefer mailing lists, but it would be really nice if the archives at flightgear were searchable. They are searchable last I checked. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Christian Mayer wrote: I hate forums. At a mailinglist I've got nothing to do - they come to me. At a forum I must think of querying it once in a while - I have to come to them. It's like the difference between polling and interrupts... - I'm getting really sick of spam. That's a v

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Or simpler: don't allow anyone who isn't subscribed to post to the lists. There's still the AVSim forum and the IRC channel for notorious non-subscribers. I'd prefer an official forum on flightgear.org for that, though. AVSim does in no way feel official. (Is it 'official

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis L. Olson schrieb: > I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? I hate forums. At a mailinglist I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:00:33PM +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:03:07PM -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > - I'm getting really sick of spam. > > What's wrong with spam filters? e.g. bogofilter, Or simpler: don't allow anyone who isn't subscribed to post to the lists.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:03:07PM -0500, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? Shudder. This would probably be the end of my participation. I can't work with forums, and I don't want to. > - I'm gett

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Explicit Texture Paths Committed -- not good --

2005-09-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Andy Ross wrote: > > If someone feels the need, they could submit a script that > automatically trims the directory paths from an ac3d file, and > encourage the content authors to use it. > > Andy > > > > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flig

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
AJ MacLeod wrote > Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the > advantages > of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh the > disadvantages. > > For one thing, it's much easier to keep up with the mailing lists, as I > monitor my email through most of the day

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Andy Ross
A J MacLeod wrote: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and > > converting over to online/web-based forums? > > Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the > advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they outweigh >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread dalen . kruse
While I'm not an active developer (just lurk on the list), I'd like to give my opinion on this. I think a forum is a great idea. The biggest advantage I see over most mailing lists is that a forum is searchable. I see too many F/OSS projects with mailing lists that aren't searchable. Having

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 18:03, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting > over to online/web-based forums? Personally, I very much prefer mailing lists. I can quite see the advantages of web-based forums, but I'm not convinced they ou

[Flightgear-devel] Question: Online forums?

2005-09-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I have a question I'd like to toss out to the group for discussion/comment. What would people think of abandoning our mailing lists and converting over to online/web-based forums? - People would only have to subscribe once and they could access all the *Gear forums. - I'm getting really sic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Explicit Texture Paths Committed -- not good --

2005-09-14 Thread Andy Ross
Paul Kahler wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > I would presume that most of these things are added not by the model > > authors, but by the software they are using. > > > > Other than the potentially embarassing information leakage (it exposes > > the author's file hierarchy), this isn't really a prob

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC problems with 0.9.8 tarball

2005-09-14 Thread PJ Quirk
Mike Rawlins wrote: Patrick, v0.9.8 comes with scenery for the 10x10 degree block with corner 130W, 30N. Did you start the sim at KSFO? If you started it in a region outside of central California no scenery will show. Mike I didn't modify anything in the base package from the website, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC problems with 0.9.8 tarball

2005-09-14 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 14:36, Mike Rawlins wrote: > v0.9.8 comes with scenery for the 10x10 degree block > with corner 130W, 30N. Did you start the sim at KSFO? > If you started it in a region outside of central > California no scenery will show. You're right, of course - but you should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MSVC problems with 0.9.8 tarball

2005-09-14 Thread Mike Rawlins
--- PJ Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you can see from the > screenshot: > > http://www.cs.unc.edu/~quirk/blankscreen.bmp > > Though the hud/panel can be displayed, and any > airplane flies fine > according to the instruments, there's just no > scenery. Patrick, v0.9.8 comes with s