Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-23 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 21:10, Jon S Berndt wrote: > Josh Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It would be nice to be able to turn on some sort of cursor in > >FlightGear to show where the VRP and CG are. Maybe three lines > >through the point and parallel to the axis of the model. I thin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-22 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:52:03 -0400 Josh Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be nice to be able to turn on some sort of cursor in FlightGear to show where the VRP and CG are. Maybe three lines through the point and parallel to the axis of the model. I think it would help aircraft design

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-22 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: If I understand the VRP correctly, for almost all the airplanes the VRP location will be 0 0 0 IFF (not a typo) the nose of the aircraft is coincident with (0,0,0) in structural coordinates, yes, your statement is true. Otherwise, wherever the nose tip is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-19 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: If I understand the VRP correctly, for almost all the airplanes the VRP location will be 0 0 0 IFF (not a typo) the nose of the aircraft is coincident with (0,0,0) in structural coordinates, yes, your statement is true. Otherwise, wherever the nose tip is located in the struct

RE: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jon Berndt
> If I understand the VRP correctly, for almost all the airplanes the VRP > location will be 0 0 0 IFF (not a typo) the nose of the aircraft is coincident with (0,0,0) in structural coordinates, yes, your statement is true. Otherwise, wherever the nose tip is located in the structural frame - t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread David Culp
> > 737/737.xml: AC_VRP 600.33 0.0 -35.67 > > A320/A320.xml:AC_VRP661.1 0.0 -37.0 > > c172p/c172p.xml:AC_VRP 42.6 0.0 38.5 > > c172r/c172r.xml:AC_VRP 42.6 0.0 38.5 > > c172x/c172x.xml:AC_VRP -10.0 0.0 0.0 > > c182/c182.xml:AC_VRP 43.9 0.0 4

RE: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jon Berndt
> Not a thing code wise. It's just a visual thing that is handled on the > flightgear side. It might be useful to have a textual > description of the VRP > somewhere like in the FDM config (e.g. "VRP is tip of the propeller nose > cone"), just so that it is possible to tell. To be honest I > c

RE: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt said: > > Yes. I mean no you aren't, but yes it is already being done. ;-) > > > > For anyone interested in this subject take a look at the > > "-set.xml" files for > > the pa28-161 or the p51d. Both add "target-offset" parameters to > > the "views". > > These are offsets from the VRP

RE: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jon Berndt
> Yes. I mean no you aren't, but yes it is already being done. ;-) > > For anyone interested in this subject take a look at the > "-set.xml" files for > the pa28-161 or the p51d. Both add "target-offset" parameters to > the "views". > These are offsets from the VRP (e.g. Nose) to where the camera

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt said: > It occurred to me (during communications with Mathias) this morning that one > downside with the VRP is the seeming rotation about the nose of the aircraft > in the view. If either: > > 1) The offset from CG to VRP, or > 2) The CG position itself (being effectively the actual p

[Flightgear-devel] VRP and Camera View

2004-04-18 Thread Jon Berndt
It occurred to me (during communications with Mathias) this morning that one downside with the VRP is the seeming rotation about the nose of the aircraft in the view. If either: 1) The offset from CG to VRP, or 2) The CG position itself (being effectively the actual physical rotational center) is