RE: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-08 Thread Jon Berndt
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 17:36, Erik Hofman wrote: > > > > Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on > > windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on flight test data. > > And Both the Fokker 70/100 and Fokker 50 use available data where possible. > > > > None of them are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-08 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 17:36, Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon > > real data. Right ? > > Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on > windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on fligh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: Steve Hosgood > > FlightGear might well be a great means of keeping the historical flying > experience alive. The trouble is, >AFAIK That is right. You don't know. > *no* airplane currently modelled > in FlightGear has ever been verified against the original machine. > I'm *not* k

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Josh Babcock
Steve Hosgood wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:13, Josh Babcock wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message Be warned, racy but authentic nose art... ..cute. We need more of these, to remain authentic. ;o) Yeah, this is an excellent opportunity to spread

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Josh Babcock
Andy Ross wrote: Steve Hosgood probed: However, we can't ignore the fact that, good though it may be, FlightGear is basically a video game. Don't feed the trolls, folks. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon real data. Right ? Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on flight test data. And Both the Fokker 70/100 and Fokker 50 use available

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Ross
Steve Hogood wrote: > Some of the folk on this list are private pilots from what I see being > discussed. How well do those pilots reckon the simulated aircraft in > FlightGear mimic the real ones, given that the FDMs are (apparently) > empirically created from the aircraft's basic layout and physi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon real data. Right ? I think this is always the case. Take the B-29 for instance. Josh has obviously done a ton of research to get the dimensions and proportions down exactly right ... that's a key compo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Martin Spott
Steve Hosgood wrote: > Some of the folk on this list are private pilots from what I see being > discussed. How well do those pilots reckon the simulated aircraft in > FlightGear mimic the real ones, given that the FDMs are (apparently) > empirically created from the aircraft's basic layout and phy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:45, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > >AFAIK *no* airplane currently modelled > >in FlightGear has ever been verified against the original machine. > > > > I'm not disagreeing, but I would like to point out that FlightGear has a > lot of stuff built in for those that want to move

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Steve Hosgood wrote: Interactive history is certainly far better than dry facts in books, but we'd have to be careful how we "spread historical information". FlightGear might well be a great means of keeping the historical flying experience alive. The trouble is, AFAIK *no* airplane currently model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Ross
Steve Hosgood probed: > However, we can't ignore the fact that, good though it may be, > FlightGear is basically a video game. Don't feed the trolls, folks. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:13, Josh Babcock wrote: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message > >>Be warned, racy but authentic nose art... > > > > ..cute. We need more of these, to remain authentic. ;o) > > > > > > Yeah, this is an excellent opportunit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-06 Thread Josh Babcock
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ok, I finally got some sort of flying FDM working, so here it is in all of its alpha glory: http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/b29.tgz Be warned, racy but authentic nose art (she's cloth

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ok, I finally got some sort of flying FDM working, so here it is in > all of its alpha glory: > > http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/b29.tgz > > Be warned, racy but authentic nose art (she's clothed, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I get the following outputs from FlightGear 0.9.8 on Debian Linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/local/FlightGear/bin/fgfs --fg-scenery=/usr/local/FlightGear/share/FlightGear/Scenery-0.9.8 --airport=LFBO --enable-real-weather-fetch --aircraft=b29 --lat=43.62176 --lon=1.377905 WARNING: ssgSGIHeader:

[Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-05 Thread Josh Babcock
Ok, I finally got some sort of flying FDM working, so here it is in all of its alpha glory: http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/b29.tgz Be warned, racy but authentic nose art (she's clothed, but you have to look hard to see it). Other versions to follow, probably 'Enola Gay', 'Fifi', an