Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-08 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 17:36, Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon real data. Right ? Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on flight test

RE: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-08 Thread Jon Berndt
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 17:36, Erik Hofman wrote: Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on flight test data. And Both the Fokker 70/100 and Fokker 50 use available data where possible. None of them are extensively

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:13, Josh Babcock wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message Be warned, racy but authentic nose art... ..cute. We need more of these, to remain authentic. ;o) Yeah, this is an excellent opportunity to spread

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Ross
Steve Hosgood probed: However, we can't ignore the fact that, good though it may be, FlightGear is basically a video game. Don't feed the trolls, folks. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Steve Hosgood wrote: Interactive history is certainly far better than dry facts in books, but we'd have to be careful how we spread historical information. FlightGear might well be a great means of keeping the historical flying experience alive. The trouble is, AFAIK *no* airplane currently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 15:45, Curtis L. Olson wrote: AFAIK *no* airplane currently modelled in FlightGear has ever been verified against the original machine. I'm not disagreeing, but I would like to point out that FlightGear has a lot of stuff built in for those that want to move beyond a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Martin Spott
Steve Hosgood wrote: Some of the folk on this list are private pilots from what I see being discussed. How well do those pilots reckon the simulated aircraft in FlightGear mimic the real ones, given that the FDMs are (apparently) empirically created from the aircraft's basic layout and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon real data. Right ? I think this is always the case. Take the B-29 for instance. Josh has obviously done a ton of research to get the dimensions and proportions down exactly right ... that's a key

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Ross
Steve Hogood wrote: Some of the folk on this list are private pilots from what I see being discussed. How well do those pilots reckon the simulated aircraft in FlightGear mimic the real ones, given that the FDMs are (apparently) empirically created from the aircraft's basic layout and physical

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: To my knowledge there _are_ aircraft in FlightGear that are build upon real data. Right ? Yes, the C172p. At least and the F-104, F-15 and F-16 are based on windtunnel data. The T-37 is partially based on flight test data. And Both the Fokker 70/100 and Fokker 50 use available

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Josh Babcock
Andy Ross wrote: Steve Hosgood probed: However, we can't ignore the fact that, good though it may be, FlightGear is basically a video game. Don't feed the trolls, folks. Andy ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Josh Babcock
Steve Hosgood wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:13, Josh Babcock wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message Be warned, racy but authentic nose art... ..cute. We need more of these, to remain authentic. ;o) Yeah, this is an excellent opportunity to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-07 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Steve Hosgood FlightGear might well be a great means of keeping the historical flying experience alive. The trouble is, AFAIK That is right. You don't know. *no* airplane currently modelled in FlightGear has ever been verified against the original machine. I'm *not* knocking

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-06 Thread Josh Babcock
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, I finally got some sort of flying FDM working, so here it is in all of its alpha glory: http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/b29.tgz Be warned, racy but authentic nose art (she's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:22:48 -0400, Josh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, I finally got some sort of flying FDM working, so here it is in all of its alpha glory: http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/b29.tgz Be warned, racy but authentic nose art (she's clothed, but you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I get the following outputs from FlightGear 0.9.8 on Debian Linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/local/FlightGear/bin/fgfs --fg-scenery=/usr/local/FlightGear/share/FlightGear/Scenery-0.9.8 --airport=LFBO --enable-real-weather-fetch --aircraft=b29 --lat=43.62176 --lon=1.377905 WARNING: