Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday 21 May 2006 01:39, dene maxwell wrote: > consequently downloding a > 530MB ISO takes a painful 6.5 hours. You call that painful? FG CVS is over 400MB and I download it on dialup (and Linux distros and about 3GB of GIS data per month). All you need is patience my friend. :) > When it d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Sunday 21 May 2006 03:09, dene maxwell wrote: > Hey Arnt, just an observation I've noticed that alot of *nix users will > "dis" Windows at almost every opportunity but I don't nearly as many > Windows users "dis'ing" *nix... have you noticed this ? > > nothing meant by it...just an observati

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Well, I finally got a 543MB file downloaded. geez, i'm sure root canal work would have been less painful than this...it's taken up 1.5 days I could have been getting my AI flightplan sorted... oh well ... I've got tomorrow to my self (almost) ...will cut the disk and test it feedba

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 05:43:11 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ..that fancy FGBenchmark-0.0.6-4-FGL line should be: > ' fgfs --aircraft=c172p --airport=KSFO \ ... > --prop:/controls/gear/brake-parking=1.0 \ > --prop:/sim/hud/draw-fps=true ', ..weird, now it appears to work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:09:17 +1200, dene wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >From: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Hi, > > > Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it > > > us

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi From: Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses > 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 > can usually drag 70KB/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 21 May 2006 11:39:17 +1200, dene wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses > 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 > can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi, Having real problems downloading the ISO. I'm using my P1 as it uses 98SE and is less prone to crashes than the P4 using Win Me. The P1 can usually drag 70KB/s out of the 2Mb/s SDSL cable connection but using the link provided it only gets to a little over 20KB/s... consequently downloding

[Flightgear-devel] AAR

2006-05-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi,   AAR is fun, if a little tricky. These screen shots were taken with an AI tanker.   ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-KC135-1.jpg   ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre.dyndns.org/fgfs/Screen-shots/KC135-cockpit.jpg   The KC135 is AAR capable so a full fuel load was

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] plib & libpuaux & puaComboBox

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
For those not following the flightgear-cvslogs list: as plib/cvs finally removed some widgets that were marked deprecated since a few years, we switched to the "new" and recommended replacements (that are in plib since 1.8.4), for example puComboBox to puaComboBox. After the switch it turned out th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- "Buchanan, Stuart" wrote: > Hi All, > > I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based > on > Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. > > It's available as a patch from > http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to > b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add "..." to menu bar

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Melchior FRANZ rote: > * Buchanan, Stuart -- Wednesday 26 April 2006 19:46: > > I've modified the menu bar so that all menu entries that display a > dialog > > box have "..." at the end of them, so "Load" becomes "Load..." etc. > > At first I agreed that this would be desirable. It's a standar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Patch to add "..." to menu bar

2006-05-20 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Anyone else tried it and decided whether this is a good idea or not? I've > gotten quite used to it since it's been on my machine ;) I like it - good idea. Torsten --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?

[Flightgear-devel] Update to the C-182

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Hi All, I've been working on an update to the c182. Improvements over previous version: - Increase in texture resolution and improved textures. Now has a nice blue pin-stripe down the side. - Minor model improvements - pitot tube, wing struts, exhausts, cowl-flaps, re-size of controls. - Addition

[Flightgear-devel] FG Pilot Model

2006-05-20 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
Hi All, I've created a simple generic pilot model for civilian aircraft, based on Dave Perry's self-portrait/sculpture/model for the PA24-250. It's available as a patch from http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/pilot.tar.gz, and it is designed to be placed in the data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d direc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:38:43 +1200, dene wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Paul, > > I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly > since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on > the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:35:19 +1200, dene wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if > they're behaving) and let you know the results. > > btw ... i want to test an AI flight-plan using the ufo ..whatever, just try > >' fgfs

[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AJ MacLeod -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:25: > just trying to move to another airport with the list box was enough to get a > segfault. Yes, this was a bug that I had introduced recently. An was wrongly interpreted as a , and so its non-existent update() method called. Fixed. m. --

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Pigeon
I've put together a simple page for FGLive, might be useful for those who's still confused or have no idea what it is... http://pigeond.net/flightgear/fglive.html Pigeon. > ...is there a win32 binary? > ...will any iso start up under *nix? > > ... treat me as a newbie (to FGlive anywa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Durk Talsma
Dave Culp wrote: As far as I know the "--flight-plan=*" option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each of the scenario file. Yep, that's correct. The --flight-plan option refers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] type flightplan for the user controlled aircraft. Not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Martin Spott
"dene maxwell" wrote: > OK... I'll give it a go...I get the FGLive url from the archives (if they're > behaving) and let you know the results. You could also get the URL from the FlightGear web site :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
To all who replied on this...thanks for the support...I realise 098a is strictly not "devel" material but your help is really appreciated.. ...I always endeavour to return that which is offered... it might not be 100% sometimes but you guys will always get the best I can do... Cheers and th

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:44: > so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans > (ie those specified on the commandline) ? Not directly, but this should be easy to convert. But then again, you need fgfs/cvs for altitude support, and without that it wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
sorta what I gathered Melchiors reply comfirmed it as I say ..nothing worthwhile is easy... thanks for the reply :-D ene From: Dave Culp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Proper

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
so the AI flight-plan *.xml format can't be used for *aircraft* flight-plans (ie those specified on the commandline) ?. BUGGER!!! :-)... I suppose that would be too simple :-} but then again nothing worth-while is easy eh? will persevere with what I got... thanks for your comments :-D

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Dave Culp
On Saturday 20 May 2006 04:27 am, dene maxwell wrote: > so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat > format, relative path etc > >As far as I know the "--flight-plan=*" option has nothing to do with AI. > >AI > >flight plans are defined within each of the scenari

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:34: > a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby > waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: > > ksfo [...] Err ... in 0.9.8 the waypoints need to be in upper case letters: KSFO KOAK ... m. --

[Flightgear-devel] Re: ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Saturday 20 May 2006 11:27: > so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat > format, relative path etc a flightplan is a simple text file with one waypoint per line, whereby waypoints in 0.9.8 are (airport|fix|nav). For example: ksfo koak ebase ak

[Flightgear-devel] Air to Air Refuelling Howto

2006-05-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
Hi all, Vivian has done quite a bit of work recently improving and extending the air-air refuelling operations in flightgear. Since this is an area of FG which it seems few people ever find or manage to use, we thought some documentation might be in order. Attached then is a brief "howto" whi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Dave so how do I specify a *--flight-plan=* file for the FG command-linewhat format, relative path etc I would like to test an AI flight-plan with the UFO so I can track it using Atlas cheers :-D ene PS 6% of the ISO downloaded.could be a long night...my ISP's cable 'net is goin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Saturday 20 May 2006 06:51, Julien Pierru wrote: > I was using the route manager while flying the tanker, everything was > working fine until i opened the "select an airport from the list" box, then > FG hang... > I haven't tried to reproduce it yet. This was happening here yesterday morning -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Dave Culp
On Saturday 20 May 2006 03:59 am, dene maxwell wrote: > ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG > command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) As far as I know the "--flight-plan=*" option has nothing to do with AI. AI flight plans are defined within each of th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Icing

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
I forgot to add some URLs which may be useful for modeling ice in FG. This one ( http://www.auf.asn.au/meteorology/section10.html ) has a nice diagram that shows the ice accretion in mm on a small probe for the air miles flown, in clouds with liquid water content varying from 0.2 g/m³ to 1.5 g/m

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Thanks Fred...that was what I needed...will try to burn it tomorrow morning (20:52 local and our equivalent of the FA cup is on Super 14 Rugby semi-final) ... now what I need is a way to try an AI flight-plan using UFO and the FG command line *--flight-plan=* option ;-) :-D ene F

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon dene maxwell : > What's the URL to the image? It's in the front page of www.flightgear.org : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/FGLive/fglive-0.1-linuxtag.iso or use BitTorrent. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 20 May 2006 10:03, dene maxwell wrote: > SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so > please forget that I should know better. if this is > possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the > information gained will help everyone :-)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
What's the URL to the image? From: Frederic Bouvier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:24:02 +0200

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Hi Paul, I refer to my reply to Fred...only too keen to try it...particularly since you've re-assured me that it won't try to install anything on the hard-drive (it's my partners PC) ... I've never burnt an ISO and hope I don't need any *nix knowledge ... I can try it on a P1 166Mhz, 96Mbyte R

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Icing

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 20 May 2006 00:32, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0991791/L/ > > Yep. No where near a cloud. > > Ampere Read the comments - it's just a bit of frosting. In-flight icing is the accretion of supercooled liquid water (SLW) on the airframe. This SLW can

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon dene maxwell : > SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so > please forget that I should know better. if this is > possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the > information gained will help everyone :-) Every CD burner software are

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
SWEET what do i download?... i've never burnt an ISO before so please forget that I should know better. if this is possible/probable I really want to give it a try and hopefully the information gained will help everyone :-) :-D ene From: Frederic Bouvier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 20 May 2006 09:10, dene maxwell wrote: > Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on > pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing > to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the > binary/Iso > > ...is the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Selon dene maxwell : > Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on > pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing > to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the > binary/Iso > > ...is there a win32 binary? > ...will

[Flightgear-devel] Re: route manager crash

2006-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Julien Pierru -- Saturday 20 May 2006 08:38: > There was no bt as i wasn't running gdb at the time. You don't need to run fgfs under gdb to get a bt. Just run gdb on the core dump afterwards: $ gdb `which fgfs` core.fgfs.123456 (gdb) bt > the only reason i said it was a route manager cra

RE: [Flightgear-devel] ..FGLiveCD boot workaround, was: AI Sim Object Properties

2006-05-20 Thread dene maxwell
Tried to find the win32 version of the FGLiveCD to try had a look on pigeons site and all seemed to be oriented towards *nix ...only too willing to help with feedback...but need to know where to look for the binary/Iso ...is there a win32 binary? ...will any iso start up under *nix? .